She was the first one who sensed there was something very wrong out there and that they should keep inside. She was agai
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — The Mist
BQQ — 10 years ago(September 03, 2015 10:26 PM)
She was the first one who sensed there was something very wrong out there and that they should keep inside. She was against Andre Braugher's group going out, they all got killed. The leather jacket guy going for the shotgun didn't achieve anything. She was against the excursion next door, half of them died and they didn't get to bring anything. The guy they were trying to save by doing that died.
The insects which drew the flying reptiles were attracted to all that light they got set up, but all we ever see her use are candles. She was against them leaving at the end and you know how that ends. The cost of things going entirely her way would have been one, maybe two sacrifices if they got to the second one before the fog subsided.
Toby Jones says "why do you think we've got religion and politics?". Thomas Jane ends the movie with "They're all dead, and for what?". He's an extremely human and likable character of course, while Marcia is a complete nutcase, but the events of the movie speak for themselves. When you think about it, the movie has an extremely controversial and conservative message.
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andrewpi7 — 10 years ago(September 04, 2015 05:00 PM)
She was the first one who sensed there was something very wrong out there and that they should keep inside.
No. The 1st one who sensed there was something very wrong out there was the guy running in the store yelling that something in the mist took Mr.{{1st victim}}. He is also the 1st one who insists they shut the doors, potentially saving all their lives. And he is the 1st one who tells them "don't go out there!" She is the 3rd person of many to say "don't go out there".
She was against Andre Braugher's group going out, they all got killed.
Others were against that too. The dad also did a lot more than her to try to stop that group.
The leather jacket guy going for the shotgun didn't achieve anything.
She was against the excursion next door, half of them died and they didn't get to bring anything.
True, however, she didn't want the mom in the beginning to leave. If that mom didn't leave then her kids would have been killed based on what the mom said.
It's not surprising to see some people try something risky when they are still guessing how dangerous everything is out there. That's all many were doing - just guessing. I would have thought they would have 1st used some food in the store as a decoy to see how dangerous things were outside before sending live humans out. The tentacle beast obviously went after the bag of dog food (or whatever) despite people near it.
She was against them leaving at the end and you know how that ends.
It ended with 5 reaching safety & the military where they could direct help to the store. However, the 4 adults in the car inexplicably turned into suicidal idiots for a heart-tugging yet unrealistic ending.
And wasn't the main reason the last group left because of her sacrifice & crazy talk causing a division in the store during a crisis? So if she was never there they may have never left & thus they may all be alive, including her. Isn't it her being a control freak that also gets herself killed where a more rational approach would have left her alive and still able to lead her followers?
The cost of things going entirely her way would have been one, maybe two sacrifices if they got to the second one before the fog subsided.
We never see that the fog subsided away from the store in a few days & in fact don't really know what happened at the store after the dad leaves (much less days/weeks/months later). Who says the people left in the store weren't killed by some powerful aliens? Who says the military would ultimately win the aliens & close the portal(
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When you think about it, the movie has an extremely controversial and conservative message.
The most controversial thing that happened to the religious fanatic was the giant insect choosing not to kill her while she talks to her lord. That seemed the most odd, but perhaps it wasn't hungry or could sense unfavorable victims (person with odd blood type they didn't like? cancer carrier? perfume acting as a deterrent? etc). That aside, she still died & when she did no one seemed to care too much (human, divine, alien or otherwise). -
umiryuzaki26 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 01:18 AM)
The giant bugs were attracted by the light, then panicked into a frenzy when the bigger munchers showed up. They weren't looking for food and only attacked when they bumped into someone/were hit by equally scared humans. Unlike Alexa Davalos character, Marcia Gay Harden's held very still - non sensing any thread, the bug just flee.
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oprlvr33 — 10 years ago(October 04, 2015 05:48 PM)
Um, no. Her later 'explosion' was laughable and the same level as any religious heretic gone loony.
She agreed that something felt very wrong. But as the chaos built, her genuine seemingly caring witness and concern, turned into vile, personal attacks against anyone who dared 'mock her'. The knife she pulled, threatening to harm others, self-declaring vengeance on anyone who came close. Reminded me of
Children of the Corn
. No sane person, who claims to be Religious behaves like that. And her absurd presumption that those mutant creatures were 'signs from God's wrath' were just way over done and laughable.
Religious protestors carry around doomsday signs of "repent or go punished". But I don't think they threaten death or vengeance on anyone who shuns them or disagrees with them.
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hedkickboy — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 04:25 PM)
Uhm she instructed people to "sacrifice" the soldier and was commanding people to take the boy and Laurie Holden so she could sacrifice them. She even wanted to kill Laurie Holden not out os some kind of "True Believer" concept, but because she had slapped her earlier in the film.
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volkstraum — 10 years ago(November 27, 2015 06:41 PM)
She was a loner and her anti-social precepts got innocent people killed at the hands of deluded people.
Everything she did was based out of her own insecurities and nothing she did was heroic.
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matthall619 — 9 years ago(September 23, 2016 10:47 AM)
So not agreeing with you is "unreasonable"?
She was responsible for causing a divide between the people and advocated murder without reason.
Were it not for her then everybody might have survived in the store but get constantly antagonistic attitude helped zero people because she just wanted to soapbox and preach nonsense to anybody that would listen rather than doing anything to improve their situation.
On top of that she was advocating cold blooded murder for no reason than her own psychopathic power trip.
Zero redeeming qualities about that total idiot. I cheered when she got shot. -
andrewpi7 — 9 years ago(September 23, 2016 10:35 PM)
Agreed. Additionally, some of BQQ's original claims about her in BQQ's 1st post were just flat out wrong and did not even happen in the movie as I pointed out.
If I had played devil's advocate to claim this religious murderous zealot was really a divinely-inspired wise hero my follow-up posts to the eventual counter-arguments by others would definitely not be "na-ah" or only saying everyone who didn't agree is just unreasonable. -
SkaterDave — 9 years ago(October 29, 2016 03:50 PM)
Kid,people will at one time or another disagree with something you say or do. If you're going to get your panties in a bunch every time it happens you need major therapy. There are people who think you're wrong. Big frigging deal.
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BQQ — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 09:03 PM)
Get outta here, I know how to take things like a man or boy worth his stock; doesn't mean I'm gonna give up on something which could be an interesting hidden message or least a theory. Perhaps I should have written "some of you people", but since the last reply before my post was
Get out of here- millions have died because of religious nonsense. Every single day people are killed for a made up god
, I got a little mad. I haven't made a third analysis yet, I don't think I care enough and yes, I've changed opinion on a second or whichever analysis countless times.
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scootergirl9988 — 9 years ago(October 30, 2016 05:06 PM)
You're an arrogant cuss, aren't you?
The guy who went out to get the shotgun was heroic. The fact that he failed doesn't reduce the bravery of his effort.
The people who went to the pharmacy in an attempt to help one of their own and perhaps others were heroic. Again, their failure does nothing to reduce the courageousness of their action.
Mother Carmidy did nothing to endanger herself and so therefore cannot be considered heroic for words alone mean nothing.. All she did was give in to her own fear and her own desire to be not just important but extraordinary. If you consider that heroic then you have no clue as to what the word means.
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BQQ — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 09:45 PM)
She died trying to protect the lives of a large number of people because of what she believed was right and what, for all intents and purposes, actually turned out to be right. I'd consider that heroic.
Movies like these are meant to be complicated, to make us ponder on things like heroism and faith, how sometimes even the nastiest people can be right. Because however Marcia's character acted and unlikeable she was, she possessed some very real virtues the heroes lacked: patience, faith, and focus on protecting the people who were already safe. She was the real interesting character as far as heroic motives are concerned, the rest you can pull out of any gung-ho action movie.
"People get it wrong, but in today's world we don't live longer, we just die harder." -Bruce Willis