It is not racism to want your children to look like you
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paul-2219 — 18 years ago(November 20, 2007 09:07 PM)
Are you really going to compare TV shows (I was the only one carrying a protest sign during taping of Cosby and The Jeffersons) with state-sponsored racist policies? You really have only 2 choices: You can reiterate NOW that ALL race-based exclusionist policies are immoral, or you can laugh and say OUR "kick-at-the-can now". Do you really want to hurt white people who very well may have no (or likely, very little) racist attitudes to people of African descent? You want innocent whites today to pay for the evils of slavers in eras we ALL want to forget but are NOT ALL guilty?
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arixson — 18 years ago(February 26, 2008 01:38 PM)
But there is no such thing as a White entertainment TV station , but I can count at least 4 that are for african americans in the washington d.c. area so do not even start with that white only or white cast garbage
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paul-2219 — 18 years ago(November 21, 2007 09:20 AM)
"People whom consider themselves 'white' have overwhelmingly more power in society as a result of their majority and will, because of the nature of the 'race' classification system, inevitably use the system to benefit themselves to the detriment of others. Thus as this system persists I have no problem with affirmative action."
People in the majority will always have more power than the minority. This is called DEMOCRACY.
You say keep affirmative action until "race" is abolished. Good luck with that, as affirmative action relies on "race" to maintain itself and the division, anger, and self-loathing such an unequal hand-out system propogates.
I don't benefit at all from American slavery. My family came to this country from Austria 50 years ago. If anything I am a VICTIM of racism. And whose family tree is free from enslavement anyway? How far back in the history books must we all delve to find some nationality or skin color to blame? Are present-day Israelis to hate Egyptions for Exodus?
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paul-2219 — 18 years ago(November 21, 2007 11:23 AM)
"I really haven't got a clue how you think just getting rid of affirmative action and letting society go on would make things better??? It really perplexes me; do you live in a bubble or something? We would quite quickly deteriorate back into a pre-civil rights situation."
I'm pretty sure the USA is similar to Canada in this respect, but there are already constitutional guarantees in place to prohibit discrimination by race or gender or creed, and labour tribunals in place to handle complaints by employees, workplace regulations, minimum wage standards, worker's compensation, unemployment insurance, we don't need affirmative action anymore! Here in BC there is a legislation on the table to RESERVE some parliamentary seats for women and minorities. People can vote for whomever they want, and the majority of voters are female!
"The Egyptians in EGYPTIAN SOCIETY are currently NOT LIVING OFF THE HARD WORK the Israelites contributed 1000s of years ago. Their civilisation was wrecked and they pretty much started again. No Egyptian is living off the benefits of Israeli labour"
I have no problem with reparations or treaty settlement. If you are a rich son of a Georgia plantation owner, you should give back what you've inherited unfairly. But to lambaste every "white" person just off the boat from wherever is unfair, and to punish the sons and daughters of "yankees" who died fighting to free slaves is also unfair. Here in Vancouver, the city just settled a treaty with the Musqueam band, turning over a golf course and university endowment lands that could potentially be worth billions (the average home in Vancouver c238osts over 1/2 million) I have no problem with that, pay back what you have taken, but DON'T treat people differently under the law because of ethnicity.
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crrun — 18 years ago(January 11, 2008 10:06 PM)
I have been told more than once that as a "white" person I benefit from slavery. Slavery was unforgiveable, atrocious and contemptable, but I don't understand how I benefit from it. All of my parents, both biological and adoptive grew up in economically disadvanted situations living in dilapitaded small homes, oftentimes adjacent to railroad tracts in small towns in Oklahoma and Arkansas. They had no money for college, couldn't afford to own a car and literally pulled themselves up from these situations without "parental" assistance, nor any assistance. They never became fabulously wealthy, just average working class persons. So, how exactly, have I benefitted from a hideous act carried out by evil persons more than 100 years before I was born?
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activista — 13 years ago(January 27, 2013 10:05 PM)
@totheendx13
White people have ALWAYS had their own affirmative action because they're in the majorityever heard of legacy preferences, which is the only reason George Bush got into Yale? That's when you're able to slip into a college ahead of other people because your grandpa is an alumni and a big donator to the school. THAT'S been around as long as there have been colleges damn near. Affirmative action was brought into being by the civil rights movement because at the time it was created (1964) a black people would NOT be hired at most corporations or many other places simply because they WERE black,period. Affirmative action was/is a way to make damn sure a certain number of QUALIFIED minorities are able to get their foot in the damn door, because without it, white folks would just go right on hiring ONLY each other like they always have,without even thinking of hiring a single person of color, or anyone that dosen't look like them.
Don't give me that "equal opportunity" bull****white people have always been in a position to make damn sure that they and ONLY they get all the damn opportunities whether they're qualified for them or not. Stop pretending that a lot of white people haven't gotten where they are not because of what they can do, but because of who they know, period. Jobs aren't always handed out on merit and you know it. Affirmative action also helped a hell of a lot of white women and women of color get their foot in to fields where men would have gone on hiring each other like they still do. You better read up and study on affirmative action and what it really does.
Also, while you're at it, read the book COLOR AND MONEY:HOW RICH WHITE KIDS ARE WINNING THE WAR OVER COLLEGE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, which breaks down exactly how rich white kids' own type of affirmative action works for them. -
Raven34 — 18 years ago(November 21, 2007 09:21 AM)
Some of you people here are missing the point. Dog made no mention of his son having children with Monique. He used the word because he thinks less of Black people than other people. How stupid can some people reb68ally be? If you want your kids to look like you, that's lovely. None of his sons are with White women. That was okay until Tucker fell for a Black woman.
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stephenjrees — 18 years ago(December 16, 2007 11:08 AM)
doesnt matter what you think - he used a racist term in an offensive and derogatory manner. It's not ok. I like Dog, and think he deserves a second chance (he gave others plenty of second chances) but what he did was b68not defendable. He needs to apologise (and mean it) and do some serious work to make up for it. He does not need his TV show taken away. Reactionary bull from A&E.
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kylebarkerlgi — 18 years ago(December 18, 2007 08:28 PM)
It was Cat the Bounty-Hunter's SON who was/is? with a Black woman. Not Cat himself. Cat's son's childrfen would not be Cat's children!
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JoshuaPaul1976 — 18 years ago(January 11, 2008 10:36 PM)
I have been told more than once that as a "white" person I benefit from slavery. Slavery was unforgiveable, atrocious and contemptable, but I don't understand how I benefit from it. All of my parents, both biological and adoptive grew up in economically disadvanted situations living in dilapitaded small homes, oftentimes adjacent to railroad tracts in small towns in Oklahoma and Arkansas. They had no money for college, couldn't afford to own a car and literally pulled themselves up from these situations without "parental" assistance, nor any assistance. They never became fabulously wealthy, just average working class persons. So, how exactly, have I benefitted from a hideous act carried out by evil persons more than 100 years before I was born?
Slavery had nothing to do with you or me. My ancestors weren't even IN America during slavery. My ancestors come from oppressed areas in Germany, Ireland, and Poland and were forced to stake out new opportunity in America. And to this day there is no one in my family who can be labeled anywhere near wealthy. We're all working-class people. We certainly aren't a family with silver spoons on the table.
b68
But, as "white" people in America, we will always be labeled as "benefits" of slavery or the "cause" behind slavery because of the light color of our skin. Don't you get it. It's all about skin color. 5,000 years from now people with white skin will be labeled as benefiting from slavery by a small miniority of angry African-American people. That's just the way it is.
Is it right? No. But we are SOMEHOW to blame for what happened long before we were born or that even MY own ancestors had nothing to do with because they weren't even IN America during slavery. That's just the world we live in, though.
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tamyabonet2 — 14 years ago(November 05, 2011 05:24 PM)
WHAT HE DID WRONG WAS CALLED HIS SON'S GIRLFRIEND OR EX GIRLFRIEND A beep THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTED HIS SON'S KIDS TO LOOK LIKE HIM.
THE MAN IS A PLAIN TYPICAL RACIST TRAILER TRASH, WHO USES DEROGATORY WORDS AND DIFFERENCE IS HE IS RICH BECAUSE HE IS ON TV. -
ryoko_the_spacepirate1 — 14 years ago(January 25, 2012 09:40 PM)
The issues or grievance had nothing to do with him wanting his child or grandchild to look like him.
I don't understand where anybody is coming from that wants their kid to look just like them.My ego wants to see certain features and characteristics in my offspring yes but more importantly I want to see the combination of me and the person Ib68 love in my offspring who is their father.
sense Tucker is his son I am going to assume by your logic he wanted his grandkid to look like him(Tucker)ok.If Tucker procreated with a Caucasian whose to say the kid would look like Dog or Tucker genes are a funny thing.His offspring could have looked like said Caucasian woman in the hypothetical scenario.Second his other kids dated non white women so why was it suddenly a problem when Tucker went for the black chick.
I understand that that was a private conversation and not meant to get out.Ok. every time I am upset with a homosexual or Caucasian the race or sexual orientation is not the first place my heads goes to when thinking of insults.
Second I dont regularly use racist slurs in my house for other races unless directed towards a person of that race to their face in a joking manner.As for black people calling other black people the n word that as an insults holds about as much weight as charlie sheen calling Denise Richards an n word.its almost laughable to some.
With that said I used to watch Dog the Bounty Hunter religiously,I still watch occasionally he apologized its done and over with.Im glad he helps the people he helps and I think his show has a good message.
I don't hold any grudges towards him if he feels that way he feels that way when you know someone doesnt like you for whatever reason just stay the hec away from them.
"I think I liked it better when I thought Sylar ate brains."