Bob Dylan quote.
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fartherdown747 — 14 years ago(July 22, 2011 12:11 AM)
Bob Dylan quote.
[onBob Seger] Some people think Bob is a poor man'sBruce Springsteen, but personally I always thought Bruce was the rich man'sBob Seger. Love 'em both, though.- I am actually a fan of all three just curious on what you all thinkI'll post on their boards to try and get a balanced response.
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streetlegal — 14 years ago(July 22, 2011 10:08 AM)
I haven't heard a great deal of Bob Seger, guess he doesn't have the same profile in the UK than the USA.
I'm not sure what to make of that quote, it could be a little dig at Bruce or he could be genuine and saying he likes both of them and sees no reason to compare one to the other. -
fartherdown747 — 14 years ago(July 22, 2011 07:06 PM)
I am not sure what to make of it either. It seems sort of like a shot but didn't Dylan have Springsteen induct him into the rock and roll hall of fame? Maybe someone had just took a shot at Seger and he tried to defend him? I am not sure. Oh and I am not sure Seger is as popular as Bruce in the U.S. but I still love his work.
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streetlegal — 14 years ago(July 23, 2011 09:18 AM)
Dylan has had some nice things to say about Springsteen but he's also expressed annoyance at critics who (ridiculously) accused Bob of copying Bruce in the late 70's! For example when Bob used a sax player on his 1978 tour some journalists accused him of just doing it because Bruce had a sax player.
There was a period in the late 70's through most of the 80's where loads of journalists had written Dylan off and at the same time Bruce was probably at the peak of his career with the Darkness, River, Nebraska albums and, of course, the huge success of Born In The USA. Dylan's records were poorly reviewed and his concerts were criticised and compared unfavourably to Springsteen's gigs. I remember Bob saying people would ask him why he didn't do a Nebraska type album(ie solo with acoustic guitar) and he replies he'd made a fair few of those records in the 60's!
So I think Bob was annoyed not so much with Bruce himself but with the people who used Bruce's work to attack his own. Lots of people think Bob doesn't care if his records sell or how they are reviewed but I'm pretty sure that is not the case. Empire Burlesque in 1985 was surely a deliberate attempt to make a more contemporary sounding album-he used Arthur Baker to get that sound and Baker was the guy who was responsible for producing/remixing some big hits; he remixed some of the 12in singles from Bruce's BITUSA album. Of course what sounded contemporary in 1985 dated very quickly and one of the big flaws of Empire Burlesques is the 80's synthesisers and drum sounds.
In short though I believe Dylan was probably annoyed at the 'hype' surrounding Bruce and felt that just because Seger wasn't as high-profile, it didn't mean he was any less talented or valid as a performer.
That's just a theory and there's every chance that the Springsteen/Seger quote was just Bob responding to a question with the first thought that came to mind. -
fartherdown747 — 14 years ago(July 24, 2011 11:54 AM)
Thank you for your information.You must have been following Dylan for quite some time your like an expert lol. I wish these quotes would all have a sou16d0rce and a time frame it would make it easier to understand the context.
I am sure Bob would of been very annoyed at being called washed up and a has been. I am sure anyone would. Dylan has a pretty big ego. I still like listening to his music but it's hard to deny that fact at times. I call b.s. on any star not caring if their albums sold. If that was the case they would all stay garage bands tour locally or whatever. They sign big record deals to make big money, become famous, and girls. I don't care what they claim
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FidelSarcastro — 14 years ago(November 29, 2011 05:24 PM)
I've probably heard more than an average amount of Seger since I am from his home state, and I'd say he has only written a few particularly good songs. Oh, sure, a good amount of his stuff is fun to listen to, bit it lacks any real depth.
I realize I am on the fringe here, but I have always thought that Springsteen was extraordinarily overrated. However, I do feel compelled to give his work a more thorough listen at some point, with an open mind, and thus cultivate a more informed opinion. -
streetlegal — 14 years ago(November 30, 2011 09:06 AM)
Springsteen's radio hits don't really provide a true picture, he's really an album artist who happens to also have written a handful of anthemic hit singles.
Born In The USA is by far his best selling album and I think it's a great record but it's a lot more pop orientated than most of his other albums and not really one I'd say was representative of his work. -
MurderInc2014 — 14 years ago(December 05, 2011 06:28 PM)
I like Seger's music a lot and Dylan is my all time favorite musician ever.but if I could pick one show to go see, it's Bruce hands down. Saw him November 3 and 4 last month and the man hasn't lost a thing.
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streetlegal — 14 years ago(December 06, 2011 05:39 AM)
I've got tickets for Springsteen next year, I've seen him before but it was a solo acoustic show around the time of The Ghost Of Tom Joad album. This time it's in a stadium with the E-Street Band, without Clarence & Danny for obviously sad reasons.
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WarpedRecord — 14 years ago(December 29, 2011 09:23 PM)
I have admired both artists for decades now, so here's my view:
Bob Seger had a spectacular run in the '70s and early '80s, but his output for the past two decades has been disappointing at best. At times, I've wondered if he even cares anymore.
Bruce Springsteen dominated the '70s and '80s, but I think he lost just a bit of steam in the '90s with those albums released together: "Human Touch"/"Lucky Town," which were made without most of the E-Street Band. But he remained relevant and challenging through varied albums and tours since, and he continues to have passion for songwriting, recording and performing.
So I give the edge to the Boss. -
streetlegal — 14 years ago(December 30, 2011 04:39 AM)
The odd thing about Human Touch, Lucky Town and the tour that followed was even though, as you say, the E-Street Band(apart from Roy Bittan) were absent, the sound suggests an E-Street Band style rather than the more intimate, acoustic and/or less anthemic music Springsteen tends to make without the E-Street band.
Nebraska being the obvious example but Tunnel Of Love( E-Street band largely absent from the album), Ghost of Tom Joad and Devils & Dust are all albums where it's obvious why Springsteen didn't want the E-Street sound. So it's always been a mystery to me why, after the split from E-Street band, why he made a couple of albums in the 'E-Street' style? -
WarpedRecord — 14 years ago(January 04, 2012 09:41 PM)
Indeed. It's very strange because "Human Touch"/"Lucky Town" are p111crimarily arena-style rock albums in the vein of "Born in the USA" and other Bruce albums where the E Street Band was key. I suspect there's a backstory here that Bruce and the E Streeters (and his new lineup) intentionally never addressed.
The fact that both albums came out at the same time is also odd; I think they're both decent releases with many good songs and a few great ones, but as a single album pared down to the great songs, it would absolutely be killer.
The other albums you mentioned ("Human Touch," "Ghost of Tom Joad," "Devils and Dust") were more solo/introspective efforts, so it's understandable why Bruce would go it alone.
I hope I wasn't coming down too hard on Bob Seger in my earlier comments. I have enormous respect for the man and his legacy, and I continue to hold out hope for his recording career, but I still hope for quality new material from artists regardless of their age, and I've been disappointed by Seger's recent releases. -
zurichpoet — 14 years ago(January 04, 2012 09:51 PM)
Late Bruce was what I most liked about the Boss "Human Touch/Lucky Town" and Tunnel of Love!!! I was going to post here because I always thought Phineas Newborn Jr. was a piano player who could have been the only one to play with acoustic Bob, when he was playing out of tune, this fall, Bob would have rocked with Phineas:
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streetlegal — 14 years ago(January 05, 2012 12:40 PM)
Springsteen made Human Touch and towards the end of the sessions he heard Dylan's Series of Dreams song and it inspired him to write Living Proof, the inspiration stayed with him and he wrote and recorded the rest of the songs on the Lucky Town album in a couple of weeks. Bruce said he considered abandoning Human Touch and just releasing Lucky Town but because he liked the HT songs ,and wanted to play a lot of new songs on tour, he decided to put out both albums.
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MurderInc2014 — 14 years ago(January 06, 2012 09:10 AM)
I always thought he should have combined the two and removed some of the minor songs off of both of them. I always thought the Lucky Town album was a little underrated. Together he could've made one solid album I think.
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streetlegal — 13 years ago(June 22, 2012 01:56 PM)
I went to see Bruce in concert last night, magical show. In the North East of England and the weather was predictably bad-rained all day and the stadium was shrouded in fog when I arrived although the rain stopped!
He played for over 3 hours without a break, fantastic mix of old songs and new material in the first part of the show and then a final hour of real crowd pleasing hits.
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jefgg — 10 years ago(February 01, 2016 02:34 PM)
Bruce Springsteen hates to be called The Boss. I knew a lot of people who liked Bruce and Neil Young when I was growing up. Neil is like a Canadian Springsteen. Tom Petty is like a Southern Springsteen. John Mellencamp is like a rural Midwestern Springsteen. I swear the first time I heard Mellencamp's song "Pop Singer" I thought it sounded like "Bob Seger".