Thor was out right cruel
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CountVladDracula — 11 years ago(October 13, 2014 04:03 AM)
So I just got done watching Avengers Assemble season 2 episode 3. Valhalla can wait. There were several things wrong with it. And yes, I know it's a kids show but hear me out.
- Hela and Loki.
A. First it follows the very recent Marvel retcon that Hela is not Loki's daughter. This was first done in Young Avengers in 2012 / 2013.
B. In the last animated Marvel universe (The Kyle and Yost universe) which was just three years ago, Hela was most definitely Loki's daughter. It even came up in Thor vs. Hulk which is in the continuity of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest heroes.
C. It's wrong to retcon Hela being Loki's daughter. Marvel should not have done this. Not only had she been his daughter for almost fifty years of comic book continuity but that's from actual Norse mythology. Do not retcon actual mythology and why? To take away some of the supernatural traits of the Asgardians or to promote the cheesy romance between "Kid Loki" and "Leah" (Hela's alter ego) from the Young Avengers comics? - This is the really dark part of the cartoon. And before you tell me I am over analyzing a kid's show, that's just it. This IS a kid's show. And Thor deliberately threw a fight just to hand his brother (adopted or not) to the afterlife. Despite what Loki's done Thor is supposed to be better than him. And Thor and Hulk worked together to get Hela to claim Loki instead of either of them. That's dark. Even darker is how Thor didn't even seem to care or mourn while Loki is dragged to the afterlife. WTF?! He just handed someone over to literally die and suffer for eternity. I know what Loki did but Thor is NOT Loki, he shouldn't stoop to Loki's level. He's supposed to be better than Loki.
This is darker than the Avengers not caring or reacting when Hawkeye got his sight back at the end of last season.
This really rubbed me the wrong way.
- Hela and Loki.
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CountVladDracula — 11 years ago(December 12, 2014 08:32 AM)
Marvel's very inconsistent about that. Sometimes they have Hela ruling both. It's sort of like how they sometimes remember she's Loki's daughter and then totally forget that point. The Kyle and Yost animated film from 2010 Hulk vs. Thor (same continuity as Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes) acknowledged Hela as being Loki's daughter while this cartoon does not. And in 616 (main comic book continuity they retconned her being Loki's daughter in Young Avengers just so her younger personification Leah (Hela scrambled) could have a hinted relationship with Kid Loki, which was just weird.
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rkhachatryan — 11 years ago(February 11, 2015 11:24 PM)
Uh huh, and as you can see, he deserved it. Seriously I don't see why you think Thor owes him something all of a sudden. Better he be in hell that terrorizing everybody on earth for no reason. Literally Loki's whole vengeance is for such a petty reason he really deserves no sympathy.
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CountVladDracula — 11 years ago(February 11, 2015 11:36 PM)
The fact that you use "He deserves it" as a justification for a brother dumping his own brother in what is essentially for him a Hell is messed up.
Don't watch superhero shows if you, yourself, don't have a conscience. A good character should never stoop to the same level as an evil one. And no one deserves a fate like that. You have to be pretty messed up to think that.
Heroes = have compassion and mercy. Something you clearly lack.
I'm not saying Loki doesn't deserve punishment but locking him in a Hellish afterlife that is exactly what his idea of torture would be is seriously messed up. And I wish you were trolling because I don't want to believe anyone thinks that sort of depraved cruelty is justifiable.
Once you start saying "He deserved it" as reason a "hero" in a KIDS SHOW should dump someone in a Hell-like dimension it's time to re-evaluate your conscience or consult a spiritualist to make sure you still have a soul.