First Interview:
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WalterWheyt — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 12:47 PM)
First Interview:
James Mangold, director of upcoming "Logan".
He, as a person who worked in this business for quite some time nowm brings up good points about the tentpole movies.
They try to please the whole spectrum of movie goers, which then results in a drastically shifting tone within 1 movie.
Another, just small note, is that they go to the studio with a script knowing what kind of movie they want to make. Thats seems to be, especially for the DCEU, a problem with which they cannot deal properly.
He goes on and sais that if the studio is willing to cross that line, they have alot more freedom. This relates to Logan being a standalone movie, too. They dont have to serve any other upcoming movies.
He also brings up the point of spectical and how it makes movies worse these days. He pretty much is on point when he sais that we can do these things on our xbox at home. And he goes on saying that he is taken out of the movie as soon as this noisy nonsense starts.
These movies have no emotional engagement anymore.
All this can be perfectly addressed to the DCEU. It really shows that an insider from the business knows about this genres problems.
Second Interview:
Amy Adams and Andrew Garfield talk about playing characters in a CBM.
Amy Adams brings up a good point that cuts deeper than she might think IMO.
She talks about how Lois only serves the story, but she cannot serve the character as much as she would like to.
This is one of the roots of all evil in the DCEU. Its not just Lois Lane, its essentially every character in the DCEU. The actors, as much as they would love to (and we all know they are great actors and are capable of it), cannot dive into this characters, because the movies are not character driven, but story driven. And if the story is only a part of another, bigger story, the whole idea of the movie evaporates by losing focus on characters and the current story.
Garfield literally sais that characters and stories are not the priority of these movies.
It just shows that the actors really love these characters, but they are not able to do what they really want with them.
Amy Adams "Ive signed on to things for one reason and they turned into something else". And that is really the problem.
These movies dont know what they want, the have no focus, no clear narrative, no characters.
It also tells its own story that they go from talking about CBM to having regrets.
All these things, they are not new, they are actually consens among fans and critics. But i still find it interesting that Directors and Actors working in this business know about all these flaws. But they all get limited in what they are doing and that is really, really sad to hear.
It tells me what to expect from the future. And i know that my expectation are lower than ever right now. After the last year of suffering from the disappointing BvS and going through the horrible mess called suicide squad, i have lowered them to not having any.
I had a realization today. The only redeeming quality of these movies is that you want to talk about them. It doesnt even matter what you say, positive or negetive. The only thing that matters is that you are talking about them. And that tells you what these movies are really about. -
Nygma_Enigma_44 — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 12:52 PM)
The only thing redeeming quality of these movies is that you want to talk about them. It doesnt even matter what you say, positive or negetive. The only thing that matters is that you are talking about them. And that tells you what these movies are really about.
It also shows how much people care about certain things in the movies as well.
The only ones who should kill, are those who are prepared to be killed. -
WalterWheyt — 9 years ago(January 22, 2017 01:10 PM)
I wonder if there is a threshold of how much sh!t beloved characters can take until these movies flop financially.
Lets be honest. A movie like Suicide Squad without the names Joker, Harley Quinn and Deadshot, with the same story and excecution, wouldve been destroyed by audiences and wouldve made 50m tops on an adjusted budget.
I beleive that as long as these movies have SOMETHING, and maybe just a 3 minute scene of Batman kicking badass ass, these movies will manage to be profitable.
If they release 3 Suicide Squads in a row, well, i dont think they would be able to continue. But as long as every second movie has great things among a huge pile of sh!t, they simply can go on with what they are doing.