Omgoodness! I just saw the scene after the credits
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Brandini75 — 12 years ago(February 04, 2014 12:08 PM)
So was Chaz a halfling or did he become one after he died? Or did he graduate to full angel? Also, his eyes were amber, not the blue of and angel or red of a demon
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always_keep_fighting — 12 years ago(February 22, 2014 09:13 PM)
According to the Bible, humans do not become angels or demons after death. He created angels before us. Demons, I think, are either angels that fell with Lucifer, or are his creations. So that scene, if you believe what the Bible teaches, would be a mistake. I think they were merely trying to show that Chas was still "in the game" and fighting on the side of good. They should have lost the wings and creepy eyes, though.
Just my take on that scene. I really like this movie, tho I've never read the comic. Every time I see that scene where KR holds RW under the water, I find myself straining to breathe. Lol -
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 11 years ago(October 25, 2014 08:15 AM)
It was due to Papa Midnite putting in a good word for Chas, he prayed for them and he helped John in the end, he died and basically became an angel, i think he was gonna look out for John now and be his guardian.
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always_keep_fighting — 11 years ago(October 25, 2014 06:43 PM)
Papa Midnite doesn't create angels; God does. And as far as I know, there's no teaching in any relgion that says that God just decides to make PEOPLE into angels.
Also, it doesn't matter when God created man (if you believe in Creationism). There were angels in Heaven before Man was created. Lucifer and his buddies fell before Man was created. Hell existed before Man was created. So.either you're an angel/demon or you're a dead person. Dead people don't become angels. The whole halfling thing is from a comic book, not any religious teachings.
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AmigaWolf — 11 years ago(October 26, 2014 05:42 AM)
Sorry tot say but Lucifer did NOT fell before Man was created, men was created on day 6 and Angels between day 1 and 6.
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always_keep_fighting — 11 years ago(October 26, 2014 11:14 AM)
Is English your second language? Does your spellcheck work? You sound either stupid or foreignpossibly both.
How do you know that Lucifer fell after man was created? Do you have Biblical proof to back that up? Since he took the form of a serpent to tempt Eve with the apple (again, this is based on Creationism), it is obvious that he fell BEFORE man was created. As far as I know, there is no Biblical reference as to the exact day that Lucifer fell and the angels and demons were created.I would assume that God created them when he created the Heavens.
According to ChristianAnswers.net
"The Scripture speaks about the creation of angels, therefore, it is clear that they have not existed from all eternity (Nehemiah 9:6; Psalm 148:2,5). Colossians 1:16-17 explains:
For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authoritiesall things have been created by Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
The time of their creation is never definitely specified, but it is most probable that it occurred in connection with the creation of the heavens in Genesis 1:1. It may be that God created the angels immediately after He had created the heavens and before He created the earthfor according to Job 38:4-7, the sons of God shouted for joy when He laid the foundations of the earth."
Angels (Heaven) first, then Man (on the 6th day). I'm not sure when comic books were created, but I'm fairly certain that they are not as reliable to Christians as the Bible is.
I will await your reply with bated breath.
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AmigaWolf — 11 years ago(October 26, 2014 03:26 PM)
Sorry that you think i sound stupit, i was using my phone.
And sorry to say but if Lucifer fell before men was created why then did God say: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 1 &versio n=KJV
Sorry if Lucifer fell before man, God would NOT say "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good", so if you knew the bible like i know it you would not say does things.
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ttandb — 10 years ago(May 12, 2015 09:43 AM)
Guys, really - 1. this is based on a MANGA, a graphic novel, NOT the bible (regardless of what version). 2. the book of Enoch (along with the book of Mary Magdalene) was removed from bible. The book of Enoch is where children of angels is mentioned extensively and in detail; so in a technical sense Chas
could
be a 'halfling'. The bible, as it was originally written, has been lost to us since Charlamagne doctored it, and then other popes followed suit down through the ages to suit
their
own
views.
However, I will re-iterate that it does
not
matter as the manga takes various biblical themes and changes them to fit the story. So please, just step off; it's just a movie, based on a graphic novel - nothing to hate on each other like this for.You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.
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ttandb — 10 years ago(July 11, 2015 08:02 AM)
They're manga in as much as they're
not
'comics' - graphic novels if you don't want to call them manga. Most writers of these types of graphic mags get very miffed if you call them 'comics'.
But the rest of my point is valid - there's no point getting into a really bad fight over a movie, tv show and some graphic novels."War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left."
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slazev — 10 years ago(July 11, 2015 03:21 PM)
No. Manga are Japanese comics.
The only difference between graphic novels and comics is that the former is a single issue or just a few issues (i.e., Watchmen was 6 parts) while the latter is serialized (like Spider-Man).
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ttandb — 10 years ago(July 12, 2015 07:37 AM)
Not sure I agree - I went to a convention last year and heard a guy telling his teenage son he 'wasn't paying that much for some comics'. The guy running the stall, who was also the artist and writer of the novels on sale got very irritated and said "I do NOT write 'comics' - there is a lot more effort, imagination and time in these than there are in 'comics'." He said comics like someone would say dog poop.
With a daughter who is a manga and anime fan, especially Japanese manga and anime, and who regularly cosplays at UK conventions I can speak with a fair amount of certainty on this. Not only from this exchange, but also questions that I've heard asked around the same thing and conversations I've had with writers at the conventions. So I suppose it depends on the individual's opinions.There are no facts, only interpretations.
Friedrich Nietzsche