The one where Ramsay planted a dead mouse.
-
Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — General Discussion
Bobby Briggs Briganza — 11 years ago(May 18, 2014 03:00 PM)
You know he did. What a tool. Then pretended that what he does is not about TV, not for the cameras
Your film gods: Lee Van Cleef and Laura Gemser
Chili-P -
logan-duk-dong — 11 years ago(May 19, 2014 11:52 AM)
There was one this year that seemed like a plant to me, one last year too. In one of the first seasons a restaurant featured on the show make a huge fuss about a dead mouse that suddenly appeared in the entrance while Ramsay was doing his "inspection". They were completely adamant about that being planted. I think they might have even tried to sue him for all the BS he pulled after. It's a recurring theme in Kitchen Nightmares and it's starting to stink. You just know one of the show's producers is walking around with a pocket full of crumbs and dumping them in a chair or a dead mouse in a bag and dropping it in a storage room somewhere then slipping Ramsay a note about it.
-
Bobby Briggs Briganza — 11 years ago(May 19, 2014 12:07 PM)
Blutty hell
The initial conversation between Rambutt and the bearded boss shows how hard the former was trying to act shocked and dramatic while the latter was just like I aint playing this. Then Rambutt stepped up the game and turned it into that bully thing. Eventually, bearded boss caves into the bully attack.
Minimally, if the KN team didnt plant the mouse, then it was a genuine accident that, despite the restaurants other flaws, didnt need to be shoved in their face. It should have been uh oh! Dead mouse - we need to clean and take care of that. Lets note it with the exterminator next time instead of walking around dangling the thing with an oh my gyoood, look at this! in high pitched voice.
Your film gods: Lee Van Cleef and Laura Gemser
Chili-P -
logan-duk-dong — 11 years ago(May 19, 2014 06:29 PM)
Yeah, that's it. I find it extremely hard to believe that everyone cleaning the night before or opening the next morning would happen to miss a dead mouse at the front door. It's possible a disgruntled staff member could have done it but then it's also a regular ploy on KN now. It just reeks of Ramsay's typical fake drama. Why would Ramsay or his staff do it? Because that makes for good TV and that's all that really matters.
RamsayCo, Inc. couldn't possibly care if these restaurants fail. Just look at the last episode. The head chef is fresh out of culinary school, no real world experience, and he and his mother have no experience running a restaurant and they've not hired anyone with that knowledge to help them run the beep restaurant. Opening a successful restaurant is one of the more difficult things to do. Knowing all of this, why would someone even bother to set foot in the door if the plan is to simply provide them with a new menu and decor? It's beyond ridiculous. It's destined to fail. It has failed. Anyone with a brain could see that coming. But Ramsay needs his TV show
He's a phony and his shows are embarrassing. He's Jerry Springer with a chefs apron. -
SweetD19 — 11 years ago(July 27, 2014 10:36 AM)
I've worked in restaurants and bars for years, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan and Baltimore believe me mice don't have to be planted. They're pretty prevelant. Especially when you have lazy bus boys that leave out bags of potato or onions you'll see holes on the bottom.
Sorry guys. -
judsonkr — 11 years ago(July 27, 2014 02:34 PM)
I know you think you are cute and all but it really dos not fly.
What you seem to not understand is that he does not HAVE to plant things and make stuff up. Think he really carries a dead mouse around in his pocket just to "get" the owners? Really?
If there were a need to do it he just might but he does not need to.
All this stuff is easy to find in any number of places you go.
It is like the hoaxtards who think the moon-landing was a fake.
Really? They managed to pull off a fake moon landing and then went on to fake it 5 more times?
It is entirely unnecessary.
If he was at your restaurant and found a mouse I imagine you would try to convince folks he planted it too.
Ever heard of Occam's Razor? Learn it.
If making guns illegal will keep them off the streets, then we should make drugs illegal too. -
Bobby Briggs Briganza — 11 years ago(July 31, 2014 09:45 AM)
I like how you just repeated the same point as the person above you, only it took you 3 times as much space to do it.
You need to read between the lines of IMDb posters like me - something Occams Razor wont help you with.
The implications not that Ramsay actually carried in a dead mouse and planted it there. I/we are being facetious about that, an exaggeration to ridicule Ramsays over-the-top drama-creation.
As you repeat from the poster above you, Ramsay doesnt have to plant a mouse because they are not uncommon.
So: If they are not uncommon, why did he go into such histrionics when he saw it? Why did he raise his voice like a screaming ninny and wave the mouse all around the restaurant? Why did he place
such a degree of shame
upon the restaurant workers if, as you say, mice are fairly common and therefore not indicative of
such an extreme degree of
ridicule?
Rambutt, as usual (cf. his fake puking histrionics)
manufactured the drama in this situation.
He did not manufacture the drama by literally carrying a mouse to the restaurant and placing it there. Me claiming, facetiously, that he did so is a way of expressing that the drama he manufactured, by running around screaming with the mouse and then bullying the guy, amounts to nearly the same thing.
So now you have an explanation of how sometimes people say things they dont mean literally. You know your Occams Razor? About the simplest solution? Well, if someone is saying something that common sense dictates doesnt make sense, the simplest solution is not that they are a nutcase, but rather that they are deliberately saying that as part of sarcasm, parody, irony, etc.
Your film gods: Lee Van Cleef and Laura Gemser
Chili-P -
logan-duk-dong — 11 years ago(July 31, 2014 11:23 AM)
I mean literally. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Ramsay or one of his crew walked around with a dead mouse in a bag in his/her pocket, or found one out on the street and kicked it into the front door then gave the camera guy a look so he could come over and get a good shot of it before Ramsay swings by to do his thing.
-
clytamnestra — 10 years ago(July 07, 2015 12:25 PM)
I agree. I've watched a few episodes of this show and it's just too convenient that the whole thing always follows the same scenario: the place is always filthy, the food always tastes horrible, etc. Surely at least some of the chefs would have taken a cue from previous seasons and made sure their restaurant was spotless clean when Ramsay arrived.
I'm pretty certain the crew carries a few trays of rotten gunk around to throw in the freezer when the owner isn't looking. There may be some clueless owners with fridges full of old stuff, but i think most of the suprised 'wut, how can that possibly be in there, we clean all the time' reactions are sincere. -
logan-duk-dong — 11 years ago(July 31, 2014 11:34 AM)
Ever heard of Occam's Razor? Learn it.
Maybe if you watch just one episode. How about we take a step back and consider 5 seasons of Kitchen Nightmares and throw in 12 of Hell's Kitchen for good measure. I don't imagine things look much better if we include however many seasons of Masterchef and Hotel Hell. And then of course there's all the lawsuits and accusations of staging
We're talking about a guy who goes on national TV and flat out proclaims he expects "the best chefs in America", when everyone watching knows he
never
brings in the best chefs. Someone who makes people drink shakes made from animal parts thrown into a blender as a form of punishment. Sounds like something from Fear Factor.
His shows are about confrontation and fake drama. That's it. And what better way to do that than find the nastiest, most hopeless restaurants and whip up a miraculous turnaround for the camera, when in reality the restaurant folds 2 weeks later. And if things aren't so nasty, well then maybe they need some creative intervention to spice it up
Trouble follows Ramsay around. -
logan-duk-dong — 11 years ago(July 31, 2014 06:26 PM)
Well, it's not a terribly difficult choice Unlimited power vs watching people who don't know how to cook taking part in cooking competitions lead by someone who doesn't care if people can cook.
We need to stop this guy before it's too late. If he makes it to HK season 15 it'll unleash the Ogdru Jahad. I'm thinking a brazen daytime snatch and grab should do the trick. We'll run the van right through the pen where the Mexican pumpkin movers live and into Hell's Kitchen. Ramsay will be too busy bouncing around on his toes and screaming about donkeys and fat cows to notice what's happening, and before he knows it he'll be bound, gagged, and blindfolded and starting out on the most amazing VIP restaurant tour. We'll make a quick pit stop at silverr8c's house to deliver Ramsay's watches before going to Food Network, where we'll Clockwork Orange his eyes open and force him to watch real chefs cook in a kitchen that's free of dead mice and old shoes. -
themousewasplanted — 10 months ago(May 23, 2025 07:35 AM)
You have had eleven years to think about what you did. Occam's Razor, more like dumbass taser. The mouse was OBVIOUSLY FAKE!!!!!! Did you really look at THAT piece of felt on the ground and think it was REAL?? You probably think that the word 'gullible' is written on your ceiling RIGHT NOW (it is. look up.)!!!!!!!!!! See the fake mouse. Read in between the lines – read the room, read the mouse. Read the writing on the mouse. Look at that rubber ass fake ass tail – probably filled with as much rubber as the Botox lodged into the creases of your forehead. Maybe not faker than your marriage, that's a pretty hard one to compete against. You're probably – no, I shouldn't say it. I should be mature. And not get in trouble on the internet or say mean things. Because I am a kind hearted sweetheart who LOVES people who believe, as well as I, that the rat was FAKE!!!! Gordon is an evil conniving manipulating TWAT. He wanted to discriminate against the lovely, beautiful women who ran such a lovely, purple, purple, establishment. I cannot believe that you would stoop this low – you don't even know. Rat? FAKE!!!!!!!!!!
And I still have more to say…
Eleven years. Judson, if that's even your REAL NAME. It's probably fake. You know what else is fake? THE RAT!!!! THE RAT!!!!!! I KNOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!! AND YOU KNOW IT TOO!!!! YOU JUST WANT TO START DISCOURSE ON THE INTERNET.
God loves you, even if I don't. He loves you, but maybe not enough if He allowed you to believe that rat was real and not planted. Today is the day I need the warmth of God's love. He spoke to me and told me that the rat was fake. You dare go against the Lord's will? Wow. Wow, just wow, Judson. That's not your name. I know it.
Oh wow, oh wow. - Steve Jobs
That is what He said when He found out that user judsonkr on one thousand year old website filmboards said that the rat was not planted. He agrees with me. Why don't you? Why can't we be friends?
AND ANOTHER THING. YOU POSTED THIS LIKE FOUR DAYS BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY WHICH MAKES ME SAD
and my friend's grandma died like two months after and I know it's your fault because you said the rat wasn't planted. That rat was fake and it probably would have made her so happy to see such an adorable, darling prop. By the way his name is Ben and he is awesome – not my grandma, MY FRIEND!!!!!!!!!
AND ALSO> ANOTHER. BY THE WAY. MY FRIEND's FRIEND MOVED AWAY SHORTLY AFTER THIS POST WAS MADE – WHY DO YOU DO THIS???? WHY IS IT ALL YOUR FAULT???? IF ONLY YOU BELIEVED IN RAT. RUBBER RAT. FAKE RAT.
Bye. Faker. -
gilbert_gumphrey — 11 years ago(March 20, 2015 08:00 AM)
Just watching it right now the biggest clue is that there were 2 cameras in 2 different angles when he walked in and found the mouse. If they weren't expecting it, why cram 2 cameramen in a doorway that Ramsay can't even comfortably walk through? Why so many angles on him just entering a restaurant for dinner service unless, of course, you KNOW it's going to be a very important moment?
I like Ramsay and I like this show, but I also really liked that the Blackberry's guys said "Nah, you planted it for TV". Ramsay didn't bring the mouse in, but the people running the show absolutely did, and as always, the insistence on having many different angles and camera set-up's for "the important bits" blows the secret. -
GraceFromSoCal — 11 years ago(March 20, 2015 12:26 PM)
why cram 2 cameramen in a doorway
You're obviously not familiar with how the show was filmed. They place cameras around the restaurant so they don't have to deal with the intrusiveness of cameramen everywhere. There are still cameramen, but the stationary cameras do a lot of the filming.
http://www.CaliforniaDreamsPhotography.com -
ranran-001 — 11 years ago(March 22, 2015 07:07 PM)
Why would a restaurant want to be known as the one that has dead mice in and around the place? Even one of the workers in the episode said there was a dead mouse behind one of the ovens in the kitchen. Staged or not, there are certain things I as an owner would not want any part of, nor would anyone else, free publicity is a good thing as long as it doesn't entail being known as the restaurant with the filthy kitchen and vermin running about.
-
gilbert_gumphrey — 11 years ago(March 23, 2015 08:39 AM)
The producers wouldn't tell the restaurant in advance "We're planning on planting a mice here by the way". But the producers will say "Play up the drama, fight back a bit, don't clean your kitchens beforehand if you do all these things, we'll spend 30 grand on renovating your restaurant".
A lot of business going under will agree to those terms, for sure (plus I honestly think every single one of them thinks "We're gonna be the ONLY ones that has food Ramsey will love!")