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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Terminator: Dark Fate


    FLOYD⠀ — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 05:47 AM)

    How was "Carl" able to live a normal life selling drapes?
    The T-800 was wanted for the police station massacre in 1984, and again for the events in T2. The police show Sarah Conner the photographs of the original T-800 at the hospital in T2 when they explain they saw him with her son (the police assume it's the same man from 1984).
    The T-800 with Arnold skin would be the most wanted man in America. Surely, someone would have recognized Carl as
    this man
    , He wouldn't be able to own a house, and operate a business in which he gets customers, without being recognized.
    More: What was Sarah's life like in between the events of T2 and Dark Fate? We can assume the cops eventually showed up at the Steel Mill after terminators die. Wouldn't Sarah be arrested for escaping the hospital and blowing up Cyberdyne? How was she free to go with John to the beach?
    Also, missed opportunity having both T-800 and Sarah Conner together again, and not a single person saying, "hey it's the man and woman who blew up Cyberdyne!" It's as if no one noticed the importance of who they were.

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      Jan_El_Senor — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 05:49 AM)

      This movie was **** for the birds bullshit!
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        FORKY! — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 05:53 AM)

        The original T-800 was smashed in 1984. The second was melted in 1994. Both were in LA. Why would anyone be looking for either one of them, in Texas, in 2019?
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          SpringheelJack1837 — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:16 AM)

          This genius gets it

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            FORKY! — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:22 AM)

            👍
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              FLOYD⠀ — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:24 AM)

              lol I know right

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                FLOYD⠀ — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:23 AM)

                Are you kidding?
                The police didn't know they were terminators. Obviously. They assumed the man (terminator) in 1984 who shot up the police station was the same man (terminator) who was blowing up Cyberdyne in 1995, as both had the Arnold skin, Model 101.
                This is even alluded to in T2, when detectives show Sarah pictures of Arnold in 1984, and mention that they've seen the same man with her son.
                So naturally, authorities would assume that the Model 101 who calls himself Carl is also the same man from the events of 1984 and 1995, T1 and T2.
                You think he'd be only wanted in LA?
                He didn't steal someone's bike. They think this is a man who murdered multiple police officers in 84. That's a mass shooting right there. In T2, he blew up an entire factory, and even shot cops there causing injury. This man would be wanted for terrorism, murder, among many other things he did along the way like armed robbery. destruction of property. He'd be wanted in all 50 states and the feds would be involved.

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                  FORKY! — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:25 AM)

                  No, do you think the feds are still looking a "man" who was killed in a factory in 1984, 35 years later?
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                    FLOYD⠀ — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:26 AM)

                    ok, well played.

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                      FORKY! — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:36 AM)

                      ½ Spoon + ½ Fork + ½ Knife

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                        FunRoyal — 6 years ago(November 18, 2019 08:57 AM)

                        Retard
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                          FORKY! — 5 years ago(April 17, 2020 05:24 PM)

                          Yes, you are.
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                              Karl Aksel — 5 years ago(April 17, 2020 02:21 PM)

                              The police weren't looking for a T-800, they were looking for a man fitting the description of Arnold Schwarzenegger. A machine gets smashed up, how are they supposed to identify that as the MAN who shot up a police station? A machine gets melted in molten metal - who identifies the body?
                              In other words, as far as the police is concerned, the man who shot up the police station and all those squad cars etc., is still at large. Why
                              wouldn't
                              the police be looking for him?

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                                FORKY! — 5 years ago(April 17, 2020 05:24 PM)

                                LAPD journal:
                                Day 12,775.
                                Still no sign of Arnie.
                                Tomorrow, we begin searching rural Texas.
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                                  Karl Aksel — 5 years ago(April 17, 2020 06:18 PM)

                                  He shot up a bunch of stuff in T2 as well. And he shot a kid in full view of witnesses in the beginning of this movie. I think they'd widen their search a wee bit.

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                                    Phaenon — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:24 AM)

                                    How was John able to send Kyle Reese back when he was
                                    dead
                                    ?
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                                      FLOYD⠀ — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:30 AM)

                                      He wasn't dead in that timeline.
                                      If there was no chance of killing John in the past because he's alive in the present, it would've been pointless to send the terminators back.
                                      It operated under the rules that the future can be changed by altering the past.

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                                        Phaenon — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:31 AM)

                                        With multiple futures why would Skynet even bother trying to alter the past once it has achieved sentience then?
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                                          FLOYD⠀ — 6 years ago(November 14, 2019 06:43 AM)

                                          To rule the future in the new timeline. John Conner helped destroy Skynet in the original timeline. Without him there, Skynet they could control everything. They sent a terminator back to kill him, so in the new timeline, they could win the war and control the world. It wouldn't help their current timeline, but it'd help their new up and coming one.
                                          There would have to be multiple futures or rather multiple timelines. If Skynet and the resistance send terminators, they'd still exist after they send them. They wouldn't eradicate into nothingness.
                                          If time machines existed, and one person goes back in time, do we all disappear because
                                          one person
                                          went to the past? No.

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