Logan/Christopher (spoilers)
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life
jeanettehudson — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 01:20 AM)
Why does everyone think Logan is the new Christopher? Logan proved that wrong in season 7. He wasn't some teen who couldn't commit to a family and settle down. He wanted to marry Rory way before the baby.
I still think he loves Rory. But she turned him down and he moved on to do what his family expects of him. He doesn't seem happy about this engagement and that speaks volumes to me. I think he is we waiting for Rory to make the first move.
In my opinion this revival shows that Jess still loves Rory but she gave no indication that she feels anything more than friendship towards him. So he can't be her Lukeand Logan is nothing like Christopher except he is rich and is no her baby's daddy -
ErinTC6000 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 09:13 AM)
IMO the Logan/Christopher connection is more about the way Rory/Lorelai feel about them. Logan is the guy Rory wants to want, and the guy her family wants her with, but she just doesn't want him. She never asks him to break off his engagement, because she knows she doesn't want to marry him. She didn't want to marry him 9 years ago, she doesn't want him now, and she still doesn't want him now that she's pregnant. I am sure Logan wants to marry her, and he probably knows that their affair is the only way he can be with her. Christopher wanted to marry Lorelai too, remember?
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Sandy0095 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 11:51 AM)
Agree with ErinTC6000- Rory wants to want Logan, but in her heart she knows something isn't right. He doesn't motivate her forward, but he's thrilling I think Rory said it best when she says "you took me on Mr. Toad's wild ride, how many girls can say that?" In many ways it describes their relationship perfectly, and parallels Lorelei's infatuation with Christopher
If fans remember, Chris used to pop into town and charm Lorelei & Rory into thinking it could work. They could finally be a family but it never worked because he wasn't stable. Luke was what Lorelei needed because he was there for her family. Even before there was any inkling of romance, he loved her and I think that's what Amy implies with Jess's stare. Rory became her mother & Jess became his uncle- friends but pining for her.
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NamelessinNewJersey — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 09:34 AM)
Totally agree, and I was about to post almost the same question before I saw it was already here. People are overthinking this: they're two different characters and there really doesn't have to be some direct parallel at work. They're both charming guys from wealthy families, but I really think that's where the similarities end. Chris is a very passive person who always waits for someone to tell him what to do. Logan is much more of a mover-and-shaker. Yes, he's had a lot handed to him, but he also makes things happen.
I'm guessing the Logan-is-Chris theory comes from people who are "Team Jess." They want the show to be telling us that Logan might be the obvious choice for Rory, but Jess is the right choice (like Luke). I just don't find this very compelling. Even if you think Logan is like Chris (which I don't), Rory isn't turning out to be all that much like Lorelai. The right type for Lorelai isn't necessarily the right type for Rory. Even with Rory's pregnancy, there are way too many differences for this to be some direct repetition of history - which would be boring and cheesy anyhow. -
Eliza5749373 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 10:43 AM)
I have to agree. I didn't see the parallels either until I starting reading up on what others thought of the end. I don't think you can exactly say she is following in the footsteps of her mother with this 'mistake', as many seem to be indicating. She's twice the age of when Lorelai got pregnant and is very clearly in love with Logan. The writing really didn't explore the complications of their relationship but I imagine it's commitment away from making it as a journalist and the issue of geography. The whole Jess thing seems one sided to me and considering it had been years since they had seen each other (I think?) I thus found Jess's staring into the house somewhat out of place but maybe they will continue to build on that if there is another season.
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perfect_lover2012 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 11:08 AM)
Because they're over complicating things. This has always happened regarding Logan because fans want to believe that Jess is the one because he changed but Rory doesn't give off anything more than he's just a friend and that Rory's only a bad person when she's with Logan. Rory had a habit of cheating before they met because she simply doesn't care. The most you'll get from her reflecting on her behavior is omg my life is awful, she still doesn't think or care about the people she hurts. She's very entitled, self absorbed and full of false confidence. Rory is Christopher not Lorelai, Logan is Logan and he won't ever be Christopher because it doesn't make sense. ASP seems to have issues with pregnancy, sex, losing virginity, and wealthy people. Jess would be stupid to even try to be Rory's Luke because that doesn't fit him, their story, or his personality.
"When life gives you lemons"
Jessica
sleep with their fathers and have secret lemon children -
ladygreyheart — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 11:13 AM)
Chrisotopher & Logan are both Peter Pan. They are selfish & immature. Logan is engaged but still shacking up with Rory when it is convenient. Of course, Rory is also selfish & immature & I don't see her growing into a good mother.
And does NO ONE on these shows believe in using condoms?
I HATE those idiotic last four words; they proved that Mitchum Huntsberger was right about Rory "not having it". -
perfect_lover2012 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 12:15 PM)
Rory seems to never forget that happened when she sees him but not to motivate herself. She could be teaching and running the Franklin as an advisor. Rory doesn't seem to want to do anything.
"When life gives you lemons"
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webmiss88 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 01:10 PM)
They are selfish & immature. Logan is engaged but still shacking up with Rory when it is convenient.
Matt Czuchry said at the premiere of the revival that Logan loves Rory a lot more than Rory loves Logan. Yes, Logan is selfish and immature, but unlike Christopher, I think he would have stepped up the plate and stayed there, whereas Christopher kept running away. He wanted to marry Rory YEARS ago and I think he just took whatever relationship she was willing to give him. I think it's sad on Logan's part.
Rory IS Christopher. Flaky, lack of ambition or drive. Inability to stay in one location or stick to anything. Logan for all his faults has an entire family empire to maintain. Yes, you could argue that this was handed to him/driven into him by his father. However, Christopher also had a family legacy and a ride to college, which he turned away.
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NamelessinNewJersey — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 01:40 PM)
Rory is Christopher
God, you're right. It's so true and makes so much sense, yet nobody ever says it. Rory is always passed off as a mini-Lorelai - Chris is just the sperm-donor neither of them really needed. But Rory is so obviously his daughter now. She's in the same place he was at the beginning of the original series: same age, never found a real career or stuck to a job for very long, always supposedly on the verge of something great, but it's always an illusion. Because they're lazy and they want things without putting in the work or getting to know themselves and what they're good at.
I so hope this was intentional and the writers have some awareness of Rory's flaws and where she so logically gets them. They never really do anything to drive it home, but boy is it ever there. -
MalouJensen — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 01:05 PM)
Logan/Christopher and Jess/Luke have similarities because of the role they play in Rory and Lorelai's lives.
Logan and Christopher represent the fantasy life. They both have money and a good family name, but that is not what makes them the fantasy. Christopher keeps appearing in Lorelais life and makes her think what if. She doent quit him until they are married and the fantasy bursts.
Logan kind of does the same to Rory. He shows her a different world to Stars Hollow. He is an adventure and he never sit still. Even before he proposed to her, he would go off when things didnt go his way. Truthfully I love Rory and Logan in season 5. They way he shook her up and made her come out of her shell. However his world ruined her. She kept on bending her morals to fit in (I am not blaming Logan for this) but she was never as shallow as when she was with him. Odette made Rorys fantasy bubble burst. And their goodbye was truly goodbye.
Luke and Jess grounds the Gilmore Girls. Luke is a stable in Lorelais life. He support and challenges her in a way Chris never could.
Jess also grounds Rory. Not when they were dating he was kind of an ass then. But he tells her the truth about herself and makes her look at her life. He made her go back to Yale and he tells her to write a book. I dont think he is over Rory and I think he will be there to love her and her child the way Luke loved Rory and Lorelai.