sweet, another show/movie about hacking that
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Mr. Robot
kissofjudas — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 08:23 PM)
was written by people that know nothing at all about hacking, computers, internet, phones
but they mentioned tor, so i guess that makes them 1337 H4XX0R5
i merely groaned about it until they mentioned the 'severe' ddos, then i started cracking up. trash show is trash.
edit: haha, i just realized the first episode of this was basically the first episode of dexter, except with murder replaced with hacking fail. -
geoffsmith430 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 05:10 PM)
obviously, not that it's any feat.
Hey, don't be so humble. Tell us some of your tales. I can promise you we're all really floored by your expertise so far and I don't think I'm stretching things at all if I say literally all of the IMDb community is glued to this thread hoping for more insight into what makes a bona fide genius like yourself tick
As an aside you have literally devastated the show with your penetrating insight. You noticed that they 'mentioned tor'. Hell, that's screwed the show right there. You'd think that was enough to cancel it immediately, mid-season.
Oh, and yeah - 'severe ddos', I'm so glad you picked up on that as well. Goddamn, that had me snorting like a demented pig. My mom had to come up and see if I was alright. I hate that, don't you? -
dlbearcave-2 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 08:19 PM)
obviously, not that it's any feat.
Obviously, of course. I know that you're a software genius, if not a legend.
I've heard that your talent is a genetic mutation. Others say that God speaks to you in UNIX.
All we know for sure is that you glow and never need to eat. PLEASE DON'T REPROGRAM MY DNA AND MAKE ME A MONKEY-MAN! GAH!
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dlbearcave-2 — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 08:18 AM)
Season 2 is already in the can.
Season 3 finds kissofjudas in completely over his head. Under attack by '
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, he has logged on to TOR and downloaded a collection of gay porn only to find his Windows ME computer is now infested with 2 dozen trojans and a rootkit. As a result his computer is now part of a botnet that is inflicting a 'severe ddos' attack on the Secret Service. Agents are on their way to his room at the treatment center as we speak. Having no clue what to do about it, he takes his computer to the Geek Squad at Best Buy, where they are rubbing their hands together and planning a trip to the Bahamas on what they're going to soak his sorry ass for.
"I knew I should have got that Mac instead, then I'd be downloading gay porn and my computer WOULD JUST WORK" he mutters as he pulls out his Blackberry and logs on to Facebook to vent his anger to his 74,021 friends.
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dlbearcave-2 — 9 years ago(September 14, 2016 06:45 AM)
http://www.imdb.com/board/14158110/board/thread/260969714?d=260969714#260969714
They mention tor and ddos
disparagingly
, not to impress you, they're buzz words that they know about 10% of the audience will recognize. The impressive stuff is the gobbledy**** that makes 99.99% of the audience say 'What is that s**t?'.
I've been busy so I'm only just now returning to this thread. You're quite wrong in what you appear to think about this show, they must have a cadre of very technically competent people involved in the writing, every episode I see one or more details that blows my mind a little bit. Normally, 'hacking' (Defined as 'taking a process or function and changing it so it performs something that's completely new and useful that the original developer never intended') is boring beyond belief to everyone except the person doing it (and of course the target). This show manages to actually make it dramatic, which is , in a manner of speaking, a hack too. You should go back and watch it again with that in mind.
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kissofjudas — 9 years ago(September 16, 2016 03:42 AM)
"This show manages to actually make it dramatic, which is , in a manner of speaking, a hack too."
except that it doesn't make IT dramatic.
it makes fake/hollywood faux hacking dramatic.
as for the rest of your strawman crap - i wasn't hoping to be impressed (huh?) by their mentioning of tor/ddos (they misused ddos, anyway). i guess when i saw the "gobbledy****," i just laughed because it was stupid.
and no, that doesn't make it a hack, "too." if/then. -
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Korenet — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 08:54 AM)
Well, kudos for the two sarcastic comments above, very good indeed.
From someone who works in IT, I can say that this is one of the most Realistic shows I've ever seen. Keep in mind that a Hacking TV show could never be too realistic, unless you want to have entire Episodes show Hacking Tutorials, and if that's what you're after, there are lots of YouTube Videos for that, this is a TV show.
To give a good example, there was one scene when Elliot says "I'm hacking the FBI" I almost cringe at the tough that he was gonna pull off one of those "Hollywood Fake Instant Attacks", but I was very pleased to see that the Hacking was just a beginning of a several stage process, like it would be in real live.
We see Elliot using putty to connect to VPSs, using a Private IP, which was GOOD, since most would say "HaHa it should be a Public IP Instead", or maybe he was using an SSH Tunnel to have whatever he would have to have to check the headers of the Traffic in between, and to have a clean exit, instead of Just connecting directly to the VPS's Public IP. In the Dialog he explains the whole process of how it's going to work while he is doing it, and although you could not "Make a Hack using that scene as a tutorial" is was good enough for the general viewer.
Another Scene, is while Darlene was guiding Angela to the Process of Restarting the Computer with a Linux Running on a Pen, to then get the Wireless Interfaces up on the BTS device Up.
Again is not truly mimicking Real Live, but for a TV show, it's ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, given that we can use for base of comparison:
"Jurassic Park: This is a UNIX System I know this"
"Chuck: Underground Hacking Scene"
"NCIS: Two people typing frenetically at the same Keyboard to Outrun the Attackers"
"Swordfish: A guy hacks the FBI in 60 seconds while getting a BJ, and under the pressure he is going to die if he fails, just because he's THAT GOOD"
"War Games: Not even worth mentioning"
My point is, unless you just want to prove you know about hacking a lot more than someone doing a TV show, well, so do I, and so does and anyone IT literate, but for the conventional standards of "TV Hacking", this could not be much better, without scaring away everybody, but geeks.
And please don't turn this into a competition, as admittedly I'm not a Hacker, because my Programing Skills are sh**t, but I think I laid out enough information, to make a valid point.
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dlbearcave-2 — 9 years ago(December 16, 2016 01:12 PM)
I'm retired now but I used putty weekly and ssh daily in my appointed rounds. Those alone made me sit up and say "This is a linux system, I know this". I also liked how they worked raspberry pi in there too. It's just a lot of fun to watch something that is clearly written by people who enjoy the same interests.
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ShannonTriumphant — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 11:08 AM)
Well said! If the writers had shown real-time hacking or even coding, most of the viewers would be asleep after ten minutes, in spite of the fantastic writing, great characters and the acting. So they did just what you said. I'm one of those people who knew what a ddos attack was and what Tor is, but I'm grateful for the stuff I've learned, such as how to use a femtocell, how to use audio-encryption like Elliot and what a Raspberry pi is! I'd love to hack like he does, or even 1/10 as well, but I'm too impatient and coding is too much like algebra II (I flunked!).
One way to test how accurate the show is is to go to some of the websites they use, like decode.org, and fool around with encrypting and decrypting your stuff. That scene when Elliot and Mr. Robot decode the message about Wellick's taxi was great!
I'm also grateful that they didn't make this show so technical that my husband (who now loves it) refused to watch it. He's lucky if he can get on the Internet.
Expecting a show to be as "accurate" as the OP (who offers no examples of what he thinks a "good" computer-based show would be!), would be the same as the writers of "Breaking Bad" showing us all enough chemistry to make meth! They didn't, but instead, showed just enough (using real chemists as consultants) to engage the viewer.
Anyway, you did make a valid pointthanks!
P.S. My favorite ridiculous computer hack is from the X-files ep., "Kill Switch", in which a young Goth girl and her boyfriend make an AI that "escapes" onto the Internet and takes control of a satellite from the "Star Wars" program (which exists after all) and can aim a particle beam at a briefcase thrown off a bridge, blowing it to smithereens. The AI also has unbelievable access to high tech contractors who always show up and keep the physical nexus ship-shape! Still, TXF ruled.
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kissofjudas — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 04:48 PM)
"the OP (who offers no examples of what he thinks a "good" computer-based show would be!"
obtain reading comprehension.
what's the title of this thread? would "another" be a keyword? i gave no examples because, as far as i know, there are none. and that was the point - and a rather obvious point, too. kudos for missing it! -
ShannonTriumphant — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 10:56 AM)
I think you're the one lacking "reading comprehension" along with basic grammar skills. No one taught you about capital letters at the beginning of sentences? I won't even bother with your lack of civility.
what's the title of this thread? would "another" be a keyword? i gave no examples because, as far as i know, there are none. and that was the point- and a rather obvious point, too.
THIS is your absurd argument? You didn't give examples because there are none? Wellyou could have clued us in that we need to be mind-readers to understand YOUR comments. Oh, waitthat presumes you have a mind.. Kudos for lousy writing!
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kissofjudas — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 04:55 PM)
"My point is, unless you just want to prove you know about hacking a lot more than someone doing a TV show, well, so do I, and so does and anyone IT literate, but for the conventional standards of "TV Hacking", this could not be much better, without scaring away everybody, but geeks."
beep
the problem is that they made it an actual plot point which then sinks the plot.
when the/a central plot point is just ludicrously fake/stupid/wrong, one can't exactly have a good/tight plot.
arguing that it's typical hollywood isn't an argument, it's exactly my point: hollywood is too stupid and lazy to bother even trying.