Sequel? Really?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Now You See Me
jakeanderson1206 — 11 years ago(December 06, 2014 10:56 AM)
Alright, so, I saw this movie last year. In the end, I thought it was a decently interesting premise with a lot of good talent (Pretty much every actor in this movie is fantastic in their own right.) and some decent writing. I however felt that the middle of the 2nd act made this movie nosedive into the absolutely ridiculous. I was prepared to suspend my disbelief, you always have to with these movies, but the whole 'grand reveal' at the end, which i won't spoil, was so ungodly predictable I wondered way they did it in the first place. (Hollywood twists are awful as of late. Seriously, has there been a good twist in a big budget film in the last 10 years? One that wasn't based off of a book or another film?)
To make it short, this movie started out well, for me, then just sorta fizzled. The movie borders on absurd and ridiculous even for a movie of this type. Just seemed like they were too focused on trying to pull the wool over our eyes rather than making a decent flick.
So a sequel? Why? I mean, yeah, this movie got OKAY reviews and did OKAY box office wise, but really? There weren't any loose ends other than the whole Mark Ruffalo thing (No Spoilers) But where else are they going to go? The plot was resolved?
My problem isn't that this particular movie is getting a sequel, its with Hollywood, whats the deal? I love movies, like a lot, and I'm not a cynic, a lot of my favorite films have come from the past 15 years. But why is hollywood obsessed with sequels? Nowadays they dont make as much money and get critically destroyed. Do they not realize that original IPs are what MAKE sequels to begin with? There are so little original films I've seen in the past 5 years, everything's a sequel, a remake, a re-imagining, or whatever. I just don't understand. I know the industry is driven by money, I get it, but its just so disappointing. They still make good stuff, and hire good writers and directors (Popular examples being Joss Whedon, Christopher Nolan, Steven Spielberg, and most popular directors that adapt different source materials)
I just hate being littered with sequels, and a sequel to this movie seems so ungodly pointless. I hate having to list the movies that I love, and most all of them are sequels. Makes everything feel so attached and soul-less. I know that sounds weird, but I hate having to list all of the sequels that I saw this year on my favorites of 2014 list. I feel like it ruins my credibility as a critic and general movie-goer, BUT THATS ALL THERE IS!
rant over
I know there's good standalone films, but does anyone see how much of a problem this is? (Even this year, Gone Girl, my favorite movie to come out thus far is an adaptation of a novel, and my other favorite, Guardians of the Galaxy, which was supposed to be a risk, was such a hit it already has a sequel in the works.) -
TxMike — 11 years ago(December 06, 2014 06:53 PM)
" I just hate being littered with sequels, and a sequel to this movie seems so ungodly pointless. "
Did you ever consider that just maybe you don't have to see it? If you hate sequels that much
.... TxMike ....
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jakeanderson1206 — 11 years ago(December 22, 2014 04:10 PM)
I know, I know, but whether or not I see it isn't my point, its that Hollywood is in such a money-hungry state that they're willing to make a sequel just because a movie makes a lot of money, and it shouldn't be that way. I don't hate sequels when they're necessary, or planned, but this just feels like beating a dead horse. The successful movies that are made that don't get sequels are from directors that have artistic integrity.
I'm just tired of movies being more about money than artistic integrity. I know it'll happen because money makes the world go round, but that doesn't mean its right. This just feels like an example of my problem. -
Howlin Wolf — 10 years ago(February 01, 2016 12:06 PM)
Since "Jaws", sequels have been made to movies that are successful It's not a new thing. The directors that have artistic integrity leave someone else to do the sequel, but it still gets made unless said director also wrote it (rare).
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DayWithoutGames — 11 years ago(December 22, 2014 09:17 PM)
There are still some loose ends at the end (lol , words) : an old , honest , innocent man is put in jail just because he is black . While some white men , who actually steal poor people 's money , are still roaming freely and they spends the money on video games , drugs , boozes and hookers .
FREE MR FREEMAN .
I hope in the sequel , Mr Morgan Freeman will use magic tricks to get out of jail and then kill all the racist white men with magic tricks . If not , then I will buy the sequel's Blu Ray disk and break it in half too . -
always_keep_fighting — 11 years ago(February 09, 2015 07:24 PM)
So THAT'S why MF's character was put in jail!!! Because he's BLACK!! Now it all makes sense!!
You should absolutely BUY the blu Ray DVD of the sequel, then break it. That'll show those white racists a thing or two, right?
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Outstandingness — 11 years ago(February 27, 2015 07:34 AM)
the whole 'grand reveal' at the end, which i won't spoil, was so ungodly predictable
If you don't mind me asking, why was it predictable?
The audience in a movie like this is guessing the entire time as to who dunnit but when considering Ruffalo's character, the possibility of him being behind it was so ludicrous that there's no way it was him. For several reasons that are completely obvious to anyone with a shred of common sense, it made no sense at all. That was the main problem with this movie: that it was completely unbelievable. Not simply requiring the usual suspension of disbelief, but literally needing your brain deactivated to enjoy this crap.
Yet I always hear people complain that the end was so predictable. Why? How did you see it coming, given that it made no sense that a full time FBI agent also had the time to concoct the world's most elaborate non robberies? -
jakeanderson1206 — 10 years ago(July 29, 2015 09:18 AM)
Yeah, I see your point. Maybe I shouldn't criticize movies for being 'predictable' when I, in fact, may be the problem. I grew up and still like movies that pride themselves on having twists and surprises, I like thrillers and suspense films, and I like to see if I can guess what's going to happen. Basically, nowadays, in both movies and TV shows, its easy to guess who the 'bad guy' or 'culprit' is, mainly by abandoning common sense. Now You See Me just seemed like a film that would try to pull the rug out from under me so I figured, if there was a mastermind behind the events of the film, thematically, who would it be? I arrived at the conclusion that it was Ruffalo because the movie, by all accounts, didn't want the audience to think it was him. That's a lot of twists nowadays, its not who you least expect, but its who the plot gives the absolute LEAST reason to be 'the guy'. I'm not tooting my own horn here or anything, I'm wrong about this stuff plenty, but I did figure Mark Ruffalo for being the mastermind behind everything for some unknown motive simply because he was last person you'd expect. SO in short, yeah that might've been convuluted but I did find it predictable.
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markfilipak — 10 years ago(March 11, 2016 12:52 PM)
Yeah, I see your point. Maybe I shouldn't criticize movies for being 'predictable' when I, in fact, may be the problem.
Congratulations, Jake. You've seen through the current
magic
of Hollywood. You're ready to take the next step.
It's kind'a sad, but kind'a encouraging too, isn't it? When I see a film like
Now You See Me
I sometimes have difficulty hearing anything other than "ka-ching!" Once people expect the twist in the current rage of twisty movies you know; the big reveal at the end then the real shabbiness of that genre of films comes home (so to speak) and they drop drop drop in peoples' opinions. One asks: Is this entertainment? What about thoughtful stories about people who are believable? People like the people you know, but who do extraordinary things? Stories about people who can inspire?
Is the Mona Lisa just another pretty face?
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martinsimard — 10 years ago(December 13, 2015 11:51 AM)
Its easier to market a sequel or a reboot. Something that decently worked is already known by a lot of people, thus making the marketing job easier. You dont have to repeat the same message as much for it to reach the audience. You just go with "hey, we made a sequel, come see it" and it will work fine.
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ravmeltt — 9 years ago(June 17, 2016 10:17 AM)
but the whole 'grand reveal' at the end, which i won't spoil, was so ungodly predictable I wondered way they did it in the first place.
Jake, maybe it was predictable to you, so maybe you are smarter than I, but it was not predictable to me and I was greatly surprised by the twist at the end. I don't normally like magic movies, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one. In fact, I'm going tonight to see Now You See Me 2 and hope it will be just as entertaining. Isn't that what movies are for? To entertain and be entertained? Well it sure did that for me.
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