Amy changed her mind about having a baby with Sheldon
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otter68 — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 05:26 AM)
In the episode where Penny finds out Sheldon has a "girlfriend," Sheldon tells her that she and him wanted to produce a baby.
Now she doesn't want a baby.
Why did she change her mind? Why was she ready when she and Sheldon were just friends, but not now?
"Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong." J.J. Rousseau -
ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 09:08 AM)
otter68
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so she was ready,
If you believe that, why don't you copy and paste the exact quote from the transcript. I don't believe you will find one that says that.
Contrarians are seldom willing to support their arguments with actual quotes. That would take all the fun out of it. It is much more fun to just make things up. -
nannyjo — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 06:41 AM)
Well, this time around Sheldon required an IMMEDIATE answer and he was acting quite out of character. That kind of pressure and strangeness just brought on a natural "flight" response from Amy, I think.
That's what we need - ridiculous odds, and just a speck of hope that someday, we'll beat it -
ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 09:04 AM)
otter68
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Sheldon tells her that she and him wanted to produce a baby.
I think you need to look at the exact quote. I don't think Amy ever said that she necessarily wanted to have a baby. It was something that they were discussing in a theoretical way.
Now she doesn't want a baby.
I believe she would like to be a lot more certain what her relationship with Sheldon is before having a baby.
Why did she change her mind?
I don't believe that she necessarily did.
Why was she ready when she and Sheldon were just friends, but not now?
If she had thought about the reality of it, she would've realized that she was not at all ready then.
For some reason, contrarians always distort things. They never seem to be able to get anything really right. -
seldon913 — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:20 AM)
I don't think Amy ever said that she necessarily wanted to have a baby.
Going a step further, I believe we heard all of this out of Sheldon. He and Amy may have had a discussion about the genetic possibilities of their offspring and Sheldon went off trying to prepare the experiment.
Why did she change her mind?
The episode was on TBS a few days ago, and bear in mind that Sheldon was also looking for a surrogate (he asked if Penny's womb was available for rental). There's always the chance Amy is interested in passing her genes along, but not going through a pregnancy. -
ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 11:19 AM)
seldon913
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Going a step further, I believe we heard all of this out of Sheldon.
I believe so too. And I believe that it was a theoretical discussion.
and bear in mind that Sheldon was also looking for a surrogate (he asked if Penny's womb was available for rental).
I don't believe the issue of Amy having a baby came up seriously before this. So I don't see that she "changed her mind."
Why did she change her mind?
That quote was from the semiaquatic weasel, not from me. I don't think there's any reason to believe that she did change her mind. Which was my point.
There's always the chance Amy is interested in passing her genes along, but not going through a pregnancy.
Sure, but I don't think the discussion ever got to the point of dealing with who the hell would raise their genetically superior offspring. -
MsWill18-526-373909 — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 11:44 AM)
You can't really go by that. Mayim Bialik had just come on the show. They were still developing her character. It was six years ago. The 'Amy' character is far from the same person she was in Season 4. Not unrealistic at all to show that her feelings about having a child right now have changed over the years.
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:07 PM)
Sheldon
: All right, everyone pay attention. Yes, I have a friend named Amy Farrah Fowler. Yes, she is female. Yes, we communicate on a daily basis, but no, she is not my girlfriend.
Penny
: Okay, well, what do you communicate about?
Sheldon
: Well, my work in physics, her work in neurobiology, and most recently,
the possibility of our having a child together
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Do we have any other information than this before the last episode on Amy's attitude toward procreating with Sheldon? -
rmontro — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:50 PM)
Maybe she was still in the "honeymoon phase" with Sheldon early on when she wanted a baby. All abuzz with the hormones of fresh love. There have been some signs that she has moved past this point, as she has often acted quite irritated with his behavior at times. Reality is sinking in.
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kerryedavis — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 11:29 PM)
Which might not be such a problem if Sheldon were actually maturing/changing, but really he's not. He'll be "normal" just long enough for one scene or one joke, and then he's pretty much back to the same as season 1.
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 07:54 PM)
Is this what you people are talking about when you claim that Amy changed her mind about having a baby?
Sheldon: All right, everyone pay attention. Yes, I have a friend named Amy Farrah Fowler. Yes, she is female. Yes, we communicate on a daily basis, but no, she is not my girlfriend.
Penny: Okay, well, what do you communicate about?
Sheldon: Well, my work in physics, her work in neurobiology, and most recently, the possibility of our having a child together.
Penny (spits out drink explosively. Howard types. Robot arm hands Penny a napkin): Thank you.
Leonard: Wait a minute a child? You never see this girl. You just e-mail and text and Twitter. Now youre considering having a baby?
Sheldon: Amy pointed out that between the two of us, our genetic material has the potential of producing the first in a line of intellectually superior, benign overlords to guide humanity to a brighter tomorrow.
Because unless there is something else, you really should stop saying that Amy changed her mind. Sheldon and Amy discussed a possibility, and Amy pointed out an advantage to it.
That is hardly Amy wanting to have a baby with Sheldon and years later changing her mind. -
jaynekranc — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 03:17 PM)
She no longer wants him in the same way. She wants him to love her. He is being mechanical and unromantic, just because he wants to create something intelligent and she wants a real and lasting relationship to bring a child into. She said at one point she envisioned them being married in four years. I think that was foreshadowing. She now wants to be married when they have a child. In the episode you mention they were talking about a surrogate anyway. That's definitely not what Amy wants anymore.
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ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 07:46 PM)
jaynekranc
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In the episode you mention they were talking about a surrogate anyway.
Did Amy actually talk about using a surrogate? I thought that was just Sheldon, and he and Amy were discussing a possibility.
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jaynekranc — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 06:57 AM)
Did Amy actually talk about using a surrogate? I thought that was just Sheldon, and he and Amy were discussing a possibility.
We got everything second hand from Sheldon and absolutely nothing from Amy. It was not even discussed on the date Penny drove them to. So I'm not sure why anyone says Amy changed her mind, since we got no info from Amy at all, but that's how the thread was worded, so I tried to work with it knowing Sheldon at that point wasn't good at making things up. What complicates it is that Sheldon immediately dropped the whole idea when Penny threatened to call his mother, so I'm not sure if it was any more than a vague discussion with Amy at all. if she had really been keen on the idea, I think it would have come up again. -
ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 09:30 AM)
jaynekranc
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So I'm not sure why anyone says Amy changed her mind,
That has been my point all along.
so I tried to work with it
I tried to point out that I did not think it was the case with only limited success. -
kerryedavis — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 03:16 PM)
"I'm going to tell your mother on you!" does seem like the kind of thing that would cause
Sheldon
to stop even talking with Amy about it. His mother also made him apologize to Penny and return her clothes etc, even when he didn't think it was his fault. "She started it!" -
jaynekranc — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 03:25 PM)
"I'm going to tell your mother on you!" does seem like the kind of thing that would cause Sheldon to stop even talking with Amy about it.
At that point, yeah, he didn't want to deal with his mother. Later on, after he caught her on the couch with the guy from her Bible study, he might have been more resolute.