Misrepresentation of Christians
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — The Mist
pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(April 16, 2016 12:52 AM)
Marcia Gay Hardens character was the religious version of a white person in black face playing a black minstrel. I honestly know no Christians that angry and negative. The ones I know would've prayed and tried to help however they could. It's still an awesome movie, but her character was an ignorant stereotype representing Kings disdain for and bigotry against Christianity.
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leandro263 — 9 years ago(April 17, 2016 12:50 PM)
Yeah, she truly is a strawman (woman), practically a caricature, but the movie needed a villain, so That time she demands the boy for a sacrifice was the most outrageously, over-the-top thing in the entire movie. Silly as hell. And the mini market people drinking the kool-aid Wow, things escalate quickly in this movie. Reminds me of the exxagerations from South Park, in that episode where the townspeople kill and devour one of their own just because they get trapped for a few hours in a gymnasium during a snowstorm. But then again, every character is so overreactive that they practically give you permission to disregard any motivations and psychological nuances they are supposed to represent. That stubborn neighbor that won't even check the storage to see the blood, preferring to think the "rednecks" want to prank him, or that redneck itself that instantly takes an advice for being cautious as an offense from "one of you people that went to college and think are better than us", are other examples that place has something in the water that won't allow anyone to think straight. Funny that even so I love this movie, it's the best Silent Hill adaptation they could have made.
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debunkerboy — 9 years ago(April 17, 2016 03:53 PM)
Yea, to a point I agree. The theme of the film of course is 'fear changes everything' and people do tend to over-react and panic when fear strikes and we really don't know how far this kind of panic might go if the existence of an army of supernatural monsters out to destroy our world is suddenly verified OUTSIDE OUR DOOR. All bets are off, I think. Yet I still think the way this is shown in the film is a bit unrealistic. But then again maybe it wasn't intended to be realistic but to be more of a dramatic microcosm sort of thing.
Actual demagogues have and do exist who can prey on our fears and cause us to become murderers, and that's a fact, so don't be too cocksure. I think the theme of both the film and the novella was to try and demonstrate how this kind of thing happens but I suspect the psychology of it was a bit oversimplified. I don't see this film as an attack on Christianity, exactly, at least not on the entire religion - more of a dig at extremests. Primitive religiosity is an easily triggered 'mode' of human behavior. Carmody is obviously not quite representative of the real in your face hell and damnation religious leaders, as annoying as they were at that time and who may have inspired King to create her character, but is more of a cult-like character, ala David Koresh, but an insane cult leader is the kind of demon who might be spawned out of the recesses of our culture and in 1980's New England that would have been likely Christian. Yes, today the obvious manifestation of this is occurring elsewhere, and from a different religious base, but I wouldn't be shocked if under different circumstances it could 'happen here'. -
Aniki21 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 04:07 AM)
Yeah, she truly is a strawman (woman), practically a caricature, but the movie needed a villain, so That time she demands the boy for a sacrifice was the most outrageously, over-the-top thing in the entire movie. Silly as hell. And the mini market people drinking the kool-aid Wow, things escalate quickly in this movie. Reminds me of the exxagerations from South Park
To be fair they did establish that the woman was already considered the town nut before things went to hell so I can accept her character as the lone nut of the group but to have in a matter of a few short days, the majority of the survivors as you say drinking her crazy Kool Aid and turn into murderous, drooling neanderthals was when things turned into a ridiculous cartoon.
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GoodRed — 9 years ago(April 19, 2016 09:06 AM)
What really upset me about how Mrs. Carmody was portrayed in the movie is that in the book, she has a reputation of being a witch, not an extremist Christian. Her beliefs in the book seem to be of both OT-Christian and Pagan orientation, but the movie acts as though she's just an insane Christian. Clearly the director had an agenda, and it was painfully obvious.
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jrregan — 9 years ago(April 30, 2016 09:56 PM)
It's Stephen King, what did you expect? He pulled a 'I believe' after he was hit by that van and almost died, but backed off once he recovered. Typical. King has a subtle antagonism against Christians and most religions. And he constantly revisits it. I can't remember any moderate reasonable depictions of Christians in any of his works I read. He is anti-christian and likely anti-religion. Which is a pity, as that is a bias and hurtful position.
Also the fold he wraps himself in shows as MGH was voted as Best Supporting Actress. Really? I found her portrayal wooden. Nothing really believable about what or how she portrayed her character. In the book, the character she plays is very believable. But I guess fat canary yellow pants pseudo religion ladies weren't photogenic enough for Darabont.
The telegraphing of the future from her lead up bits was simply crappy. No other way to put it. -
DBLurker — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 03:02 PM)
Do a search in Google on how Christians being funded from US work in India, how they torture kids to force them to convert, etc. etc.
Christians ARE like that. Just another group of backward religious apes thinking they are better than other apes who failed to evolve. -
pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 05:52 PM)
So you judge all Christians by a vast minority who blatantly disobeys actual Christian teaching? That's very ignorant and bigoted. I suppose by your logic, you can judge every atheist by Stalin who actually has a death toll of 20 million or so.
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pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(May 30, 2016 08:28 AM)
"Lol", except Islamic terrorism is the greatest modern threat in the world today. There are many caliphates who have declared violent jihad on all who do not follow them.The same cannot be said for Christianity. So "lol"
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pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(May 30, 2016 08:31 AM)
Except, they actually are persecuted. According to CNN, Christianity persecution reached a high in 2015. The article said it was akin to the level of ethnic cleansing. Not that you care.
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DBLurker — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 05:10 AM)
Just another group of backward religious apes thinking they are better than other apes who failed to evolve.
Yup.
I am an atheist, so I judge all religions on the actions of their nut-job followers, not what is written in their fairy-tale books (though Abrahamic religions have really fuked up sht written in their books). -
DBLurker — 9 years ago(August 31, 2016 05:15 AM)
Oh and also, the group you mentioned were clearly disobeying the teachings of Christ. To blame Christianity for those who disobey it is extremely idiotic.
That's great and all, but doesn't change the fact that your people are doing it and rest of you "moderates" are not out there on the street protesting their actions.
That and the fact that American and Roman churches fund these nut-jobs, let's not forget, the pedophiles your Pope protects.
Mother Teresa is a good example >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JxnUW7Wk4
Instead of wasting time defending your cult, come down to the earth and abandon false prophets. World will, eventually. Americans are turning to atheisism anyway. Century of gods is over. Muslims as the delusional fools have shown the world in masses why "god" doesn't save you from a guy flying a drone thousands of miles away.