Yeah it was foolish but
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — How I Met Your Mother
rayk3333 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 06:49 PM)
Yea, so the ending was pretty bad. They tried to pull a fast one over our heads by throwing in a quick twist, except they twisted the arms right off the show. It seemed unplanned, lazy and a last min thought. As a casual view, who only surfed up and down the mid season, it doesn't really bother me. I can still continue to watch the random reruns on TV without a problem. But I can see how much it could piss off the solid fans. But, but, really though? Really? You really didn't expect Ted and Robin to end up together? They were the Ross and Rachel of this era. They were gonn end up together, especially after they horrible miscast of THE MOTHER (IMHO, respect it).
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stargazer_1682 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 07:09 PM)
But, but, really though? Really? You really didn't expect Ted and Robin to end up together?
The show kept clubbing us over the head with the idea that they were never going to end up together, and that they should not be together. The concept of Ted's journey leading to him being with someone else entirely made the notion otherwise even more ridiculous.
He lied to us through song! I hate when people do that." -
rayk3333 — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 07:22 PM)
I'm not saying there's isn't a legit reason to be mad at the writers. Like I said, they were trying to pull a fast one after they "kept clubbing us over the head with the idea that they were never going to end up together." But that's part of the reason why I expected it to happen. I wasn't mad (may be a little, mainly because it's dumb not because it happened) when it happened, while people around me were outraged. But I was happy to see Ross and Rachel come together finally. I just couldn't stand the "mother".
Ted and Robin were meant to be. And all those time wasted keeping them apart to just to make a last min change is what gets me mad! -
stargazer_1682 — 9 years ago(November 23, 2016 11:24 PM)
Ted and Robin were meant to be.
No, they weren't! The show demonstrated time and time again that they were completely for each other; and that the pattern of their behavior over the course of the better part of a decade, would make it very likely that even Ted's attempt to get back together with her in 2030 will not last long, because they do not fundamentally work together.
Going into the finale, the fringe conspiracy theory, which until finale was all it ever was, that the Mother had been dead the whole time, was so absurd that I wrote a scenario about how that would go, mocking the very premise; only to be horrified just closely the dialog of the actual scene ended up being -
http://stargazer1682.tumblr.com/post/81353303178/himym-ending-in-essence
And Cristin Miliot was perfect as the mother. I advocated for years that we should get to meet the mother before the show ended; knowing full well how hard it would be to try and capture the larger than life concept they had created over 8 prior seasons, and they nailed it. And then pissed all over it.
He lied to us through song! I hate when people do that." -
rayk3333 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 12:15 PM)
IRL, as an outsider, you'd say, why aren't those two just getting together already! You keep looking from their perspective, the show's perspective. And I'm agreeing with you about how it was set up! Just read my title. I'm talking about ideally, you'd think those two should end up together.
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adhitikrishnan — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:57 AM)
Well honestly I thought that Ted and Robin were going to end up together till season 9.however like most fans I fell in love with the mothers charecter.i think the actual reason why the finale was disappointing was the mothers charecter which was brilliant and too likable and hence most fans haated the ending. Also the divorce of Barney and Robin did not make much sense and did not go down well with fans.
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mjn-seifer — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:22 AM)
They weren't trying to "pull a fast one", I don't think. They were basically saying that things don't always last forever, but it doesn't make it any less "magical".
Robin and Barney divorced
and
The Mother died
in the finale, but that doesn't have to mean that both
love stories
were a waste of time, but instead were beautiful things that happened in life which will always be remembered. The final scene, is still less than perfect, but for me it's more because of how rushed and half-acted it is, rather than the fact that
Ted moved on
and I in no way think that
Ted moving on means that he never loved The Mother.
It is actually said on one of the DVD commentaries (which were done before the backlash) that their point was basically thing don't always last forever, but that doesn't have to mean they weren't worth it and should still be remembered as something wonderful. -
stargazer_1682 — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 02:55 PM)
the fact that Ted moved on and I in no way think that Ted moving on means that he never loved The Mother.
The fact that they made Ted out to be pining for Robin, and only "moved on" when he wasn't given a choice, only to return to Robin when it was again convenient for both of them to do so; seriously undermines the connotations and context of Ted's relationship with Tracy. Ted never really dealt with his feelings for Robin, he "let her go" - but he didn't stop loving her; they made that abundantly clear over the entire course of nine seasons. Not only that, they ultimately introduce the idea that it was because of these feelings for Robin that none of his other relationship during the series worked out. They then have Robin effectively fall off the proverbial face of the planet, which conveniently allows Ted to continue his relationship with Tracy without ever having to face the same challenges of making that relationship work, where all his others had failed. Tracy becomes the one who works out, not because of any special quality about her or the dynamic she has with Ted, but primarily because Robin stepped out of his life; which could have happened at any time, with virtually any other serious relationship Ted had been in over the preceding eight years, and he may have well been just as happy and fulfilled. That doesn't make Ted and Tracy's relationship anything special, he doesn't emotionally deal with his past feelings for Robin and mature that relationship into something unquestionably platonic, allowing his feelings for Tracy to develop unfettered by his old baggage. That's what the show hinted at with episodes like the original Slapsgiving, where Robin and Ted realize that they had to a new place in their lives where they were just friends, or how Ted's kids drew pictures of Robin as they grew up, or just the fact that Robin was "Aunt Robin" to them. All of that, and much more, painted a future where Ted and Robin maintain a close enough relationship while he's married, that his kids - and ostensibly his wife - consider her an extension of their family. Instead they kept the fire of Ted's romantic and sexual infatuation with Robin alive well beyond its shelf life, and in spite of past supposed resolutions of those feelings; setting a pattern and precedent where it would be more likely to believe Ted was not truly over Robin while he was with Tracy, and that the probability would be high that, if he had been forced to choose between then, he would have chosen Robin, because that's what his track record was established to be.by
jaxson_bateman
.and I'd be surprised if no-one had considered it before then
They had, and it was commonly dismissed, alongside the idea that Ted was dead, or that the Mother was "Bump Girl" - the girl Ted bumped into during Saint Patrick's Day - the latter of which was a far more common theory, but none of those, or any of the other outlandish ideas that sprung up over the nine years of the series, were given much credence, because they were just that; crazy fringe theories, put out by people who generally assumed there had to be some unpredictable twist to the ending the series. The typical response to that, was that, that wasn't necessary with this show, and that something like the Mother being dead would actually detract from the story; and it does. Suddenly the kids become jaded ass holes in hindsight, when looking back at the first episode; when Future Ted says he's going to tell them how he met their mother - their dead mother - they ask if they're punished, and are eager for the story to be over. Then when it is, they don't actually care that their
dead mother
was barely featured in the story; and that their dad was wasting their time, telling them unrelated and often inappropriate stories about his past every other woman he'd been with who wasn't their mother; and then they encourage him to go after
aunt
Robin.
And oh yeah, meanwhile during the course of his meandering story, Ted recalls a complete non-sequitur about the time Uncle Marshall had an elaborate process for fantasizing about women, where Lily dies of an ambiguous disease, before Marshal moves on with a woman he had previously met and been attracted to - because apparently Ted was foreshadowing or telegraphing the real purpose of his story; and is hoping to effectively make that fantasy a reality. And he went into greater detail about said fantasy, than he did about what happened to Tracy.
Basically, Ted's a dick, the kids are a chip off the old block, and Tracy's probably better off
Oh, it was the horse. I'm going to be King!" -
spreerod1538 — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 02:22 PM)
I agree, somewhat. That it seemed inevitable that Ted would end up with Robin.
They did it in the most ridiculous way ever. The last season should have and could have easily been 2 episodes; the wedding, and then the aftermath. Maybe if they spent just a couple of episodes on the wedding and then went into the Mother so we feel like they've been together for sometime.
Instead we've been waiting for Ted to meet her and then when he does, she dies the same episode.
Poorly executed. And having said that I'm angry again. -
jaxson_bateman — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 11:12 AM)
Always seemed like the show would end up with Ted and Robin together - and for me, that was pretty much confirmed in the episode where Robin found out she couldn't have kids. It seemed to be a very obvious writer's ploy to throw off the average viewer, who would now be like "oh, she can't have kids! There's no way he ends up with her seeing as he has kids!".
I was actually one of the people that thought of the mother-died theory (in parallel - I actually only first saw the show in about 2012, and I'd be surprised if no-one had considered it before then), and felt like I'd won a bet when I was proven right.
Pretty much everyone I've spoken to that liked the show hated the finale, and it pretty much seemed forced to try and stick to the original plotline of Ted and Robin ending up together. A better show would have adapted to how the show had changed from season 1 and 2; instead they tried to fit a square peg in a hole that was by now very, very circle. -
Loves-Bitch — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 12:49 PM)
They were the Ross and Rachel
Didn't they specifically say that they were Not supposed to be the Ross and Rachel? I was thinking that in commentary they said that. In fact I was thinking that the commentary for the ending of the first episode said they did that "that's how I met your aunt Robin" to indicate that the show was different and that they were not your "Ross and Rachel".
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Moonlighty — 9 years ago(January 16, 2017 11:48 AM)
What are you asking? Yes instead of doing something different from friends, the writers chose to copy the Ross/Rachel formula down to the unjustified reunion. And what do you mean was Aunt Robin always Aunt Robin? Well she wasn't called Aunt Robin before Ted had the kids.
Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.
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bigdog-65546 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 04:17 AM)
As a die hard, love this show fan, I can honestly say at first, the ending pissed me off. Re-watching the whole series from beginning to end on Netflix, I've had a chance to watch the finale a few times now. In that time, I've come to appreciate it more and more, and I'm at peace with how the series ended. I've even warmed up to The Mother, even though I thought she was miscast at first. I still wish, in my heart of hearts, that Ted wound up with Victoria, who was my personal favorite GF of his. But, I love the show and watch it whenever I can.
