What exactly does the falling off the ring to the other side indicate ?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Match Point
vspm83 — 11 years ago(June 01, 2014 11:40 PM)
My first impression of the above mentioned scene (and i really liked the analogy) in the movie was that i thought that Chris smashed the ball but it fell into his court meaning he is going to get caught. However he survives in the end. Please explain how exactly were we supposed to interpret the scene ?
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vspm83 — 11 years ago(June 08, 2014 08:02 AM)
I just thought that if the ball ended up in his court then Chris should have got caught. (becuase if it were a tennis match, he would have lost the point, wouldn't he ? ) So, it's just that !
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Portlis — 11 years ago(June 06, 2014 02:26 AM)
Seriously? It was about as clear as can possibly be.
The "ball" (ring) bouncing back to your own side of the court is bad luck. Thus, the ring bouncing back is also bad luck, and we the viewers are supposed to think that he's going to be caught because of it. You know, he was trying to dispose of all of the evidence and failed.
But then as luck would have it, some other random dude comes along and picks up the ring, then commits a murder and gets caught with it in his pocket. That "unlucky" bounce does a 180 and instead of screwing Chris over, it's the one piece of evidence that saves him. The cop's dream had him completely nailed otherwise.
You can try to read into it more and find deeper meaning if you want, but really it was just a clever plot twist and nothing more as far as I'm concerned. -
vspm83 — 11 years ago(June 08, 2014 07:17 AM)
I just thought that if the ball ended up in his court then Chris should have got caught. (becuase if it were a tennis match, he would have lost the point, wouldn't he ? ) So, it's just that !
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littlemiss91 — 11 years ago(June 08, 2014 09:56 PM)
I agree with everyone here it's a plot twist as in it seems he would get caught, the ball/ring falling in his court, but then it doesn't. What I thought interesting was his conversation with the
'ghosts'
, with Nola saying that he wants to get caught and he notes that he almost wants to as it would prove that life has meaning and justice, and the fact that he will never get caught, thus he has to live with knowing that justice was never served, never getting closure, almost like it really was bad luck.
Obviously it's hardly a fitting ending for him as he
committed murder
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Quicksilver1900 — 11 years ago(June 10, 2014 01:40 AM)
As in classical Greek drama, so much of life is determined by random events. Woody Allen reprises this theme in many of his films, eg,
Crimes and Misdemeanors
and
Blue Jasmine
. Like Chris, Judah will not be caught and punished for his crimes. But due to an unlucky, untimely chance meeting with her vengeful ex-brother-in-law, poor Jasmine lost her only chance of escaping her terrible fate. -
Quicksilver1900 — 11 years ago(June 17, 2014 12:54 PM)
Good point. And you could say that this incident illustrates that - Jasmine was punished for her lies and attempted fraud by the timely (or untimely) appearance of her hateful ex-brother-in-law. Nemesis follows hubris.
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Quicksilver1900 — 11 years ago(June 17, 2014 01:54 PM)
Well, Jasmine did, if you want to look at it that way. To preserve her comfortable life, she closed her eyes to her husband's crooked dealings, and when the authorities finally caught up with him, she lost everything including her r'ship with her stepson whom she raised. Equally, she had closed her eyes to her husband's affairs until he finally announced he was leaving her for a young woman.
As I said above, she attempted to deceive Dwight with lies and deliberate concealment of her past until she was exposed by Augie.
At the end of the film, Jasmine wound up homeless, talking to herself on a park bench. She had definitely paid for every one of her bad decisions. -
leishayoung — 11 years ago(June 29, 2014 04:40 PM)
It's the 'Match Point'. At that point his life can go either way. The police can find the ring (and with it perhaps some of his DNA) and he will go to jail for the rest of his life for a double murder, or somebody else will find it and keep itwhich is essentially what happens.
A homeless man finds the ring and the police find him with the ring in his hand, they therefore assume that he is the murderer and not Chrisby pure luck he gets off with murder and some other poor guy goes to prison for Chris's crime.
If you watch the very first scene in the film where he talks about what a 'Match Point' is in tennis and how luck very often decides the fate of the game (as a metaphor for life), it should connect the dots for you.
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kadeskiss — 11 years ago(July 09, 2014 12:50 AM)
Luck! Chris was lucky. Chris threw the ring away hoping no one would ever find it. However the ring didn't
fall into the water, it landed on the ledge were a drug addict with a criminal background founded it. Therefore when the drug addict was shot during a similar crime it was easily assume that he was responsible for Nola's death. Chris was lucky because at that point they closed the case and he was in the clear.
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leeuwroar — 9 years ago(July 22, 2016 04:55 PM)
It s ctually big plot hole. Chris threw away the jewels including the ring into the river somewhere in the center the next day. It is never shown he did it in Nola s neighbourhood. Then the ring turns up in the pocket of junkie in Nola s neighbourhood. Very strange coincidence, not believable.
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lspear76 — 11 years ago(September 22, 2014 07:55 PM)
Tennis is a game designed by a creator with a set of rules. You win the point if the ball goes forward or lose the point if the ball falls back.
The ring doesn't bounce forward across the other side and into the water and you immediately think Chris has lost the point and will be found out. But since life itself has no designer, and there are no true rules, it turns out that it was actually good luck for Chris because the ring was found by a bum with a history of petty theft and therefore he, not Chris, was thought to be the murderer. -
bhoover247 — 11 years ago(September 26, 2014 05:59 AM)
After the murders by the Manson cult members, Charles Manson instructed the killers to leave wallets, checkbooks taken from the victims and leave them in a gas station restroom in a predominately black area of Los Angeles. He was hoping that black people would be blamed for the murders. Thankully, unlike this movie his plan didn't work.
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seedsas — 10 years ago(April 28, 2015 01:49 PM)
Its in reference to a tennis ball touching the net it either goes over or it lands in your court the latter means you lost the point. The detectives would have continued the investigation of Chris but the ring was found on dead drug addicts and as you know drug addicts are thieves thus to feed the habit. This my friend it why drugs should be legalized. Drug addicts are people too and they have the right to be an addict if that is where life leads them.