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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums β€” Brokeback Mountain


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      Platonic_Caveman β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 07:51 AM)

      An affair between two people can't be bisexual.
      You didn't comment when I said BBM shows not all gay men are vacuous queens at a Madonna concert. 😜
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          Platonic_Caveman β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 08:09 AM)

          Oh, I like Madonna's music. But I only see certain people live. I don't think she's even in my top 100 of music I like.
          But my point about queens at a Madonna concert was that BBM showed two masculine men in a homosexual relationship. Almost every gay character on tv or in films is an effeminate stereotype.
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              Platonic_Caveman β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 03:35 PM)

              The American show "Modern Family" has a gay couple as main characters. They're positive characters. But they're mincing effeminate stereotypes.
              I'm as offended by those two queens on "Modern Family" as a black person would be offended by two nice guys in blackface.
              Sorry, the media rarely gets it right.
              I hate to keep harping on it, but even on the Madonna thread, the assumption is made that gay people must be prancing at a Madonna concert and if not, they're not really gay. Straight fools love to keep us in a safe little box and too many self-hating gays go along with it.
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                None β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 10:02 AM)

                Around that time race would still have been an issue for many people.

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                    Platonic_Caveman β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 07:18 AM)

                    BBM was better than Crash. But neither should have been nominated.
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                        Platonic_Caveman β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 07:36 AM)

                        You mentioned Capote.
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                          ~AnnaMaria~ β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 07:20 AM)

                          The Hurt Locker was great,how dare you! Lol πŸ˜›

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                              Newer Rocket Fag β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 07:38 AM)

                              Tragic was when Pagg cybered me when I was 15 and then told after he was a big fat Mexican dude ,I've havent left my grandparents basement since.

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                                Lilith β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 02:22 PM)

                                This was a bit of a tragic love story as well…
                                "Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith

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                                  Alpha Raven Andromeda β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 03:30 PM)

                                  I am a sucker for tragic love stories. If a love story has a happy ending, I am uninterested. BBM wasn’t a super special movie or anything, but considering many of the nominees and winners I’ve seen in the years since, I’d say it’s nomination was deserved. In 2010 the hurt locker won best pic ffs… and in the same year Precious and Avatar were nominated for best pic. None of those movies were better, really, than BBM. Crash was not better than BBM either. I would say Brokeback was actually better. Capote should have won best pic.
                                  It's been several years since I've seen these movies. My recollection of them is vague.
                                  Now, Hurt Locker beat the competition in the category of Best Picture for a couple of main reasons imo. Mainly for Identity politics (first female director Oscar win) and it represents best film better than the other nominees. It's what the Academy normally chooses for best picture. The other nominees were all great films in their own way and rightfully so.. We'll always remember them whether we actually enjoyed watching or take this subject seriously.
                                  Personally, I rooted for James Cameron's Avatar as best film because I felt he deserved it. The story, plot and overall themes in Avatar weren't particularly unique like Broke Back Mountain and not even compared with Hurt Locker. The genre Avatar represents isn't historically taken seriously by the Oscars and I feel rather under-represented in the Best Picture category probably in another major categories as well.
                                  With all of that going against James Cameron, I felt Avatar deserved to win especially considering the judges were already influenced to thinking outside the "box". Lol
                                  I like war films but Hurt Locker wasn't the best I've seen, yet it does represent a testimony that female directors what it takes to stand alongside their male counterparts with an equally well craft product. Katherine Bigelow made her mark that night and in hindsight, I'm happy she did. It's not like I didn't think she deserved the win. I just really liked Avatar alot.

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                                    martian β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 09:13 AM)

                                    Crash was a masterpiece. I don't get the hate. Some of the scenes were contrived but all in all great film.

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                                      Alpha Raven Andromeda β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 03:42 PM)

                                      I guess it depends how you look at it. If you can’t get over the β€œnovelty” of gay cowboys, and this gives it a sort of schlock factor for you, then you won’t be able to take it seriously. If you look at it as any sort of gay movie, first and foremost, then it will have a soap opera factor. It never had any sort of schlock factor or β€œomg gay” factor for me. I avoided it for years but when I watched it, I saw it as a romantic tragedy sort of film with a universality to it. It’s so sad it’s almost too much.
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                                        MovieManCin2 β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 06:51 AM)

                                        And a mediocre one at that.
                                        MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                                          Cornelius Cuntlicker. β€” 6 years ago(November 23, 2019 07:31 AM)

                                          Anals of cinema πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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