incomprehensible torture porn - DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS FILM
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terry2070-1 — 17 years ago(December 21, 2008 10:13 AM)
It isn't fair to categorize it as torture porn, or accurate as there wasn't much brutality or true violence, but what is fair is the assessment that this was very poorly executed.
I think James Elroy is overrated and his take on this crime is so far from the truth that anyone who has read books on the real case will be severely annoyed that he felt the need to dramatize an already interesting case.
And then we have De Palma, master of the over-the-top. I get that he was trying to re-create the film noir atmosphere, but I have honestly never seen so many decent actors act so badly.
The whole movie, you just want them to focus on the murder but instead you are stuck with these two uninteresting cops.
Let's hope David Lynch or David Fincher take a stab (no pun intended) re-visit this story as they have both expressed interest in doing, and if anyone is interested in learning about the ACTUAL case, read evered: The True Story of the Black Dahlia Murder by John Gilmore. -
ferreira0665 — 13 years ago(February 14, 2013 11:08 PM)
I think you as well as others have misinterpreted Ellroy's intention. He has never said his book was what really happened to Elisabeth Short. In fact, he has says it is possibly what could have happened. You can read all the books of what happened to Elisabeth Short and claim them to be true as the authors can but in truth we really don't know. That is why this murder remains unsolved.
What is even more interesting is that the game L.A. Noire has the character you play figure out who the Black Dahlia murderer is but before you can make an arrest, you are either demoted or promoted depending where it happens in the game. Haven't played it in a while.
This would give the impression the LAPD was in on it being covered up. And that the murderer was actually known but the LAPD was paid off so we will never know.
That may not be the true story but it is surely possible due to the fact that we know the LAPD is one of the most corrupt organizations in the United States.
Take what happened in the movie Changeling for example. And if you read the real story and the court case on it, its all true.
Again Ellroy had said his book the Black Dahlia is his own idea. Its not fact as we don't really know what the facts are. -
tommygunfeth — 17 years ago(January 16, 2009 01:06 AM)
I can't believe this movie falls short in ratings because of people like you who don't even understand the movie.
I'm sorry if you didn't understand it..
But that can not be blamed on Brian DePalma.
The blame must be put on yourself..
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dkalmbac — 17 years ago(January 23, 2009 10:59 PM)
according to the trivia section, there's a 3hr cut of the film. i'm sure it is much better and, at the very least, makes a lot more sense. quite frankly, i'd like to see it.
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mlookw-566-931101 — 13 years ago(January 06, 2013 10:52 PM)
Scarlett Johanson how does one go about asking her out on a date? I'll take her to Ireland. She smells so good on film. Say I'm sitting down and she stands very close so my nose was level with her crispy mound I'd sniff her coconut and lemon. I am a washed-up man, American, older fellow no money. We'll swim to Ireland I'll ride her back. Scarlett come unto me and give my thy succor.
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spotlightwise — 13 years ago(January 23, 2013 07:29 PM)
Scarlett Johanson how does one go about asking her out on a date?
in the film, paying for her college studies, irl for her clothes and cosmetics. Prolly, Josh Hartnett kicked himself for having asked her out. She humped and dumped him. He was gonna change her, but Scarlett couldn't be trusted. -
Dragoneyed363 — 17 years ago(February 23, 2009 04:19 PM)
This movie was positively wonderful!
Sure, it got a little boring at times, but it's so suspenseful and is filled with delightful surprises everywhere you turn.
The acting was fabulous, everything else was magnificent!
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LollyMM — 16 years ago(July 26, 2009 09:49 AM)
This was rubbish. The acting was bloody awful (Fiona Shaw what were you thinking!?). Josh and Scarlet are wooden actors anyway but they surpass their crapness in this film-they are a woodpeckers wet dream! Stupid pointless plot. Nasty crap. Hilary Swank femme fatale? She's too ugly to tempt anyone. AVOID (especially if bad scottish accents make your hair stand on end)
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rex_ilusivii — 16 years ago(September 30, 2009 09:00 PM)
I've just finished watching the first 15 minutes of this "thing", and had to come to imdb to check that it wasn't the burger I had today that was making my stomach turn. What an awful directing! These actors behave like their director suffered from what Woody Allen's character was struk with in the Hollywood Ending. This is bizzarly bad.
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Cyber256702000 — 16 years ago(November 23, 2009 05:06 PM)
Just saw it and I didn't think there was any "torture porn" in it at all. As far as gore I thought the movie was fairly tame. You have to expect some grisly scenes seeing as how the story is based on a real life case of a woman who was chopped in half.
When I think of "torture porn" movies such as Hostel, Saw 3, and Texas Chainsaw Massacre come to mind. De Palma has always been fairly good with the violence in his movies. The murders in Dressed to Kill and Body Double were done quite well. Unfortunately he falters with his actual storytelling and his films can at times be quite a mess. -
munspel — 16 years ago(December 17, 2009 04:08 PM)
Isn't torture porn just a new word for gore/splatter?
It has nothing to do with sex from what I understand.
Anyway, it's a silly concept and I didn't find anything like that in this film.
This film was very bad though. It felt like a parody of noir at times with the over acting and the voiceover. And why was it called The Black Dahlia when it was about two boring cops?