Lonely Hearts episode
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Cold Case
EmilyTheDramaQueen — 10 years ago(June 27, 2015 07:56 AM)
Does anyone know where I can find info about the people in the real life case that this episode was based on?
"I'd rather lose for what I am than win for what I ain't"
Kacey Musgraves "Pageant Material" -
KathrynMorrisUK — 10 years ago(June 27, 2015 10:47 AM)
I think this Wikipedia page might help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Fernandez -
varuns-1 — 10 years ago(July 01, 2015 08:37 AM)
I watched this episode really for the first time fully last night. Very good, with several twists and turns.
One thing that was not clear, is why the lady turned against Delgado, after practically worshiping him before. What was the critical event or realisation, that changed her mind, and made her determined to kill him? -
julianfluffersons — 10 years ago(August 01, 2015 08:20 PM)
My thoughts during the episode was that she changed the first time she
killed the one girl,
and that she never felt comfortable doing what she did. She learned what Delgado did, his tips and tricks, so when he wanted to marry her after she was upset she knew
he was going to kill her.
So i think with that knowledge she figured he wouldn't stop trying to
kill her
and that he probably would keep hurting people and decided to kill him? That entire episode was pretty rushed and wasn't well played out. -
ACFan71 — 9 years ago(September 26, 2016 03:28 PM)
I just re-watched this episode online yesterday. The reasons that Martha Puck turned against him had to do with (a) being saddened after reading a touching inscription on a watch from one of their victims (the watch appeared to be an heirloom dating back decades that must have been handed down). That inscription reminded her of what true love really is (remember, she was a reader of romance novels and being one half of a murdering duo is not the stuff of romance) and (b) she concluded that if he wanted to marry her that that meant that he wanted to get rid of her (kill her). With that said, the fact that her tape was playing when he later killed himself suggests that he actually did love her and wanted to be with her, not kill her.
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sidgirl — 4 years ago(July 02, 2021 07:03 PM)
This is one of if not my very favorite CC episodes.
It's so tragic; you're right, I think Ramon actually did love Martha, and that's why he proposed…but Martha thought his proposal meant he was going to kill her, so she turned on him. (I also think that the killer's motive was better than many, or rather, it wasn't a good motive, but it was more interesting than many.)
It's so sad. I know we shouldn't root for Martha; she scammed and killed people. Ramon was a bad person, obviously, and I'm not sticking up for him, but he also didn't kill anyone–and made clear that he never intended to–until she gave him the idea and showed him how it could be done, and as we saw, she's the one who actually committed the murders. So it's arguable that she was worse than he was. But it still makes me sad, especially that he watched her tape, all he had left of her, as he killed himself.
Can't believe Bruno Campos stopped acting and became a lawyer 