The problem with Guys like Lars….
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Howlin Wolf — 9 years ago(December 06, 2016 09:10 AM)
People are entitled to comment on things, even if they're wrong That's the freedom of speech that you guys love.
You're free to comment on my culture all you want; I'm thick-skinned enough to take it The fact that you DON'T is your fault, not mine.
Films are an expression of ideas; they are not a definitive expression of culture but if one director puts out their 'idea' of that culture (even if they don't live there), then we are entitled to comment upon that That's a free exchange of ideas, instead of censorship of everything that falls outside of a certain proscribed narrative.
Who says he has 'gravity' or authority'?? I doubt even HE would say that; it's just a perspective, an opinion Take it or leave it, but don't say it can't be offered!
If people could only make movies about things they've experienced personally, then the choice available would be pretty boring!
Consider my argument:
I don't think Lars Von Trier hates America. his films are more about 'ideas' than equations where there's a definable answer at the end.
The fact is that America represents the most useful canvas that exists in the world right now to play these ethical quandaries out on because of both the vastness and variety reflected in its population and influence.
America is a wonderful melting pot of all different races and identities, and what it's supposed to represent offers us the chance to integrate and truly understand one another better. The flip-side against that is human nature and our tendency to exploit the vulnerabilities in one another for our own personal gain.
So the problem isn't 'the system', but how we as people work within that system. America is just singled out because it's perhaps the world's most prominent superpower. So, in a way, Americans should be proud that the U.S. is so visible that outsiders are constantly trying to comment on it or affect it! They see it as a model to implement progress everywhere else, because if America changes, then the rest of the world changes too
In other words, America is so diverse from one state to the next, that you can do lots of different creative things with its individual elements I see that as a GOOD thing!
"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!" -
Zoomorph — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 10:02 PM)
Dumbass, Lars is not criticizing America in this film. He's criticizing the SJW mentality that all races are equal. He's criticizing the concept of "freedom". He's criticizing love of democracy.
Around half of modern Americans are smart enough to hold similar criticisms. In the past, that number was much higher. Not all Americans are dumb, even if the majority are becoming dumb. And - here's the important thing - Europeans are in the exact same position. Criticizing modern liberal stupidity, a problem affecting the entire World world, is not criticizing America.
Finally, criticism isn't such a bad thing. Whether it's by foreigners or not. Instead of chimping out and chanting "MUH AMERICA!" maybe you should think about the validity of the perceived criticisms and try to form a rational response.
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Zoomorph — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 01:37 AM)
Maybe? It is a white person "saving" the blacks from other white people. Either way, SJWs criticize it for the opposite reasons. For them white people are bad/guilty/evil, and they are too sheepish to interfere with anyone else. American foreign policy has been made weak, ineffectual and comical by this sheepishness and degeneracy which is why we have to pretend we're invading other countries to "save" people rather than openly declare our selfish motives. This movie shows that racial inequality can be a good thing - the opposite of the SJW position - and the lead character that it ridicules throughout is practically a stereotypical SJW.
~ Observe, and act with clarity. ~