How does this have so high score?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Firefly
liquidlicker — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 08:43 AM)
I mean for a sci-fi it's pretty weak, the dialogue between characters is very weak, and Nathan Fillion doesn't have this believable Captain aura. He makes a more believable social sciences teacher.
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poem — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 09:22 AM)
I mean no matter what genre it's extremely strong, the dialogue between characters is beep crazy awesome, and everybody is insanely good, as if born for this part.
Fixed it for ya.
Seriously, if you say red is green, I can only shrug and tell you you're wrong.
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liquidlicker — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 11:41 AM)
Well, if you're such a joker, then try to be original, other than spewing this "fixed for ya" that seems to be rather popular trololoo here in imdb.
But i guess the core of my problem lies with Nathan Fillion. He's always been a very weak actor in my opinion. Doesn't have the looks, voice, nor multi-faceted character for different roles. For me he's as boring actor as Peter Krause. Completely invisible.
PS. By looks i mean that if the actor/actress doesn't have any quality attributes, then an interesting looks is something that could pardon the bad acting. Vin Diesel, for example - he just oozes with this charismatic aura, but his acting is very low in my opinion. -
liquidlicker — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 04:33 PM)
LoL they didn't even teach the actors basic fighting skills here. The fight scenes are the biggest joke. In the alleged punch moment or some fast move, the camera always turns away, so that you can't see the move. Usually a trick when the actors weren't trained basic simple moves and grasps.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 06:22 AM)
Gotta disagree. It's good sci-fi. It even avoids the space is noisy trope that befalls so many sci-fi shows and movies.
I love the dialogue. It's funny, clever, and unique in blending chinese with english. Nathan Fillion is a gem in this. He's got great warmth when he's with his crew but an aura of darkness when he's pissed.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 07:17 AM)
Ooh, not at all. That's quite a creepy episode. The audience gets their first real look at a Reaver. Very intense and gruesome.
The interrogation of the crew is one of the funnier moments in the series. A great episode.
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liquidlicker — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 07:23 AM)
Watching this show gives me the vibe as like i'm watching Starship Troopers 2, while thinking how good the first movie was, and what kinda joke low-budget one the second one is.
With the difference we don't have any prologue to this (that was very good), and instead of a movie it's a TV show. -
preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 08:00 AM)
Actually, the original airings did have prologue. Just a quick recap about how we found a new system and planets to colonize.
And yes, very good. This is a tv show and not a movie. But there actually is a movie as well. Gotta love the 'verse.
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liquidlicker — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 08:06 AM)
All the 720/1080p complete packages on the internet have this episode included. Originally it was supposed to be aired lastly (i think), because Fox didn't like the quality of it, so it was scrapped as an intro. And, yes, it's as bad as other episodes so far.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 08:21 AM)
No, no. I meant a literal prologue before the episodes.
But if you're confused about the show/movie titles, Serenity (2002) pt 1 and 2 is the pilot to the show. Serenity (2005) is the feature length movie which was shown in theaters.
Either way, both are fantastic. Good action, heart warming stories and fun characters. Definite high points for the franchise.
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liquidlicker — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 08:30 AM)
Okay, i misread. But Serenity pr1 and 2 were scrapped by Fox Entertainment. They didn't like the production quality, so they were originally aired last back in 2002. I know about the movie, will watch it after the show. I'm not putting much hope into it. Again, the Captain is better suited for a high school teacher.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 09:38 AM)
Post-poned, but not scrapped. They still aired both parts. It wasn't the production quality they didn't like. In fact, Fox has never had anything negative to say about Firefly's production quality. It was actually quite high.
What Fox wanted was something with more action. Hence The Train Job. A classic western trope.
Nathan Fillion would make a great high school teacher. He'd bring the same charm as he does in Firefly.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 10:05 AM)
Charm is only part of Mal's character. We see his commanding presence. We see how charismatic he can be. All laid out in various scenes across the series.
Guy makes for a great captain. Leads, but also knows when to command. Fillion perfectly captured that in his performance.
And charming of course already implies innate charisma.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 04:02 PM)
That's a great scene. "Big damn heroes, sir." That became a rallying cry for the Browncoats. Heck, Serenity was unofficially known as The Big Damn Movie.
And Safe has one of my favorite moments: River's dance. One of the few times we actually get to see the poor girl without the burden of the trauma inflicted on her.
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liquidlicker — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 04:28 PM)
Oh, i already forgot. The way River is expressing her pain is also crappy acting. In my opinion, of course. I've never cared much for Summer Glau, but i do seem to remember seeing her in other roles doing a much better job. Which ones, i can't recall unfortunately. But true, Firefly was made back in 2002 and she was very young back then.
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Ajones47 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 07:37 AM)
PreachCaleb, can I just say: you are a wonderful human being, and my personal hero for today? Licker's critique is rather hollow and vacuous, and at several times that critique included choices of language that seemed almost intentionally chosen to rile up a strong response, yet you treated said critique with respect, you kept hitting the positives, and you didn't stoop to attacking the critic. You've done good work here.