Did anyone else find the ending to be the least bit offensive?
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keesch83 — 22 years ago(September 14, 2003 02:47 AM)
I saw this movie in my Native American on Film class, and I found that the ending is pretty offensive. It makes the main character look like a hero for defacing a national monument which should be given respect. Yeah, we all know the old stories of the evil white-man, but give me a break.
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v8injun — 22 years ago(January 06, 2004 01:20 AM)
Offensive? Of course not, not if you have a brain and critical abilities.
If you chose to look past the apparent "defacement" of a "national monument" which isn't a monument to all by the way, you would see the feelings, emotions and ideas that are brought forth in the film. If anyting, you should begin to question why you are bothered by this "defacement" and question why one would ponder such a thing. There are mulitiple narratives that make up the American identity. Not everyone is a blindly patriotic conservative. It doesn't take two seconds to consider how Native people could fathom "defacing" a "national monumuent" if you actually thought about it. Don't be so willingly ignorant. -
roaringfirefilms — 17 years ago(October 11, 2008 10:15 AM)
The only defacing taking place there is the defacing of the Black Hills by Mount Rushmore. Even your Supreme Court agreed that the Black Hills are stolen from who they consider the legal owners, the Lakota People.
To have the faces of the leaders of your genocidal oppressers etched into your most sacred place is an afront of the highest order.
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Raven34 — 15 years ago(March 06, 2011 07:00 AM)
I could not have said that better myself. I appreciated what Rudy did to the so called "national monument." In fact the tee shirt he saw in the store with the Natives as Mt Rushmore is a shirt I WOULD BUY!
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my_heroin — 21 years ago(August 31, 2004 07:14 PM)
Totally agree with you Wolfsmile36.. it would have made the movie better. Though the only parts they showed of Pine Ridge were the ghetto-ish places.. There are better housings like Old Hospital Housing, New Hospital Housing and Cherry Hill. Mostly they just showed Northridge, Eastridge and Crazy Horse housings. Pine Ridge is bad, but at least evolved enought to not all look like that. The movie should have showed that
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acbc1976 — 18 years ago(July 15, 2007 08:26 PM)
I didn't find it offensive. After all the "white man" stole the Black Hills because of their greed for gold, the Sioux were robbed of their land and to this day have not accepted the money from the us gov't. It was a sad, sad time in history for the indigenous tribes and the white man will never make up for the genocide and injustices to the native tribes. I can't wait to see the Crazy Horse monument!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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GhettoMafioso — 22 years ago(February 04, 2004 08:35 AM)
Unless you fast-forwarded the movie right to the end, you would have understood that Mt. Rushmore was a defacement of a natural monument. The Black Hills are a sacred area for the American Indians. For America to blast the faces of their leaders into the rock of the Black Hills is a travesty. Adding the fact that the reservation is the most poverty stricken and has the lowest life expectancy of any town in America, you should get the idea that throwing a bucket of paint off a cliff is not really that bad.
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HeatherMac320 — 19 years ago(August 22, 2006 01:48 PM)
"Unless you fast-forwarded the movie right to the end, you would have understood that Mt. Rushmore was a defacement of a natural monument. The Black Hills are a sacred area for the American Indians. For America to blast the faces of their leaders into the rock of the Black Hills is a travesty."
Very well said GhettoMafioso! And I thought it was an absolutely splendid ending to a brilliant film!
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mekaatnu — 17 years ago(July 29, 2008 09:58 PM)
Come to think of it, the monument itself is like a subliminal/symbolic tasteless gesture-a slap in the face. Kinda like naming a predominantly white club in Harlem- the Cotton Club!The former example is far, far, far worse than the second-I'm just making an observation.
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keesch83 — 19 years ago(May 15, 2006 03:35 AM)
being a blind conservative is one thing, i'm simply saying that there should be a level of respect given towards a monument that represents our country. Every country has history, and there aren't many of them that are completely innocent, but i'm tired of everyone romanticizing the native americans like they were just this peaceful little race that would never harm a soul. If you don't have enough respect for something that represents the country you live in, then you might as well leave, because this country isn't run by native americans anymore just as countries in europe have conquered over territories of other nations. Get over it . I'm an american, i don't feel connected to my german or british ancestors, so i feel i have to respect the country that i live in currently. not the one that it used to be a few hundred years ago. i'm not going to take a dump on something that native americans hold sacred (regardless of what colonizers did years ago) and i expect native americans would have the same respect. By the way, don't respond to me, because you know what, i really don't care.
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hghspray — 19 years ago(May 18, 2006 09:59 PM)
Your completly missing the point ,what you as americans finds sacred ,we as natives dont ,and when it comes to the monument ,the people who bulit it didnt respect the fact that they were defacing our sacred black hills by making the monument. Not to meantion who they were honoring.If your people ,the americans didnt respect the fact that to the lakota the black hills is the most sacred place on earth to them,why would you expect us natives to respect the monument.If americans want respect they need to give it first,which they didnt and every time we indians see that monument it reminds us how you americans really feel about our culture or our sacred places.
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MissPiggy13 — 19 years ago(June 06, 2006 04:02 PM)
It isn't run by us anymore cause we been run over,out of our lands, put on reservations, assimilated, pushed out of our culture,taken over by others, and have to watch it all destruct (our land, languages, culture,etc.) - very hard to 'get over it' as you say. You might not feel connected to your ancestores cause you don't actually live in the UK or Germany. Apparently you haven't a clue as to respect. And btw, i care if you do or don't respond to me.
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