Great story, poor pacing
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Trigun
EpsilonX — 11 years ago(April 13, 2014 09:40 AM)
While I enjoy this show, I feel like the pacing is very poor. There are tons of bad guy of the week episodes to start, and while they get increasingly dramatic, it's still pretty much the same thing. That's not a bad thing on its own, but as soon as the plot starts to REALLY pick up (the episode where Vash was chased around town by that really strong dude and he first uses the gun in his arm) it goes off on some filler episodes. At that point, I wanted a continuation of the plot we saw before, not filler.
It's a good show, but I feel like it could have been better if it was paced differently. It ended strong, too, which is cool. -
GorillazButter — 11 years ago(April 26, 2014 03:42 AM)
100% agreed.
The "Little Arcadia" episode is so out of place. It's the only episode I haven't watched in nearly 10 years and still skip it everytime. Not even a good filler.
Oh and I'm not too keen on B.D.N being a 2-parter. Then again I wasn't happy with how that was conflict was 'resolved' anyway. Vash lets a murderer get away to rob and kill again, what a hero.I'd love to see you in the moonlight with your head thrown back and your body on fire.
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ScottMerica — 11 years ago(January 09, 2015 07:57 AM)
Agreed. The first twelve episodes I thought actually were paced well. It was episodic sure but to me did a good job at making the characters likeable and was entertaining at a good pace. Then Diablo was a game changer that went dark with Legato's introduction and Vash failing to save people for the first time in the series and losing his sh-t.
Unfortunately after that we got two filler episodes and a rinse repeat cycle of Vash running into a gun-ho gun, witnessing people being murdered and then getting depressed. Don't get me wrong, I liked the second half. It had some cool villains and Wolfwood's arc was unbelievably good, but the pacing was a bit rough. At least the ending was decent
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itsment2be — 10 years ago(February 05, 2016 12:42 PM)
I'm utterly baffled why people give this anime so much hype.
There are plenty of characters who don't kill. Batman, Superman, Kenshin, etc. They remain loveable characters because there's a prison/jail system in place, with laws and consequences for committing crimes.
In Trigun, Vash doesn't hold these criminals responsible for the crimes they commit. He just tells them to "run along".
So they can kill, rape, and destroy property on another day, as long as it's not under his watch.
This is so unbelievably stupid, that I can't even recommend this anime to kids. It is universally insulting to the intelligence of all human beings regardless of age. If I watch this with a little kid, eventually at the end of the episode the kid will ask me why Vash doesn't put the bad guys in jail. And I won't have an answer other than:
Vash has an extremely immature view of right and wrong. Actually it's beyond immature. His moral compass has been damaged by childhood trauma. His childhood scars won't allow him to accept the simple fact that letting a murderer(who continually kills) live free is infinitely more evil than killing the murderer. His childhood scars won't allow him to comprehend how selfish he truly is, and how he kills more people indirectly, when he saves serial murderers.
It's almost like when Knives killed the spider and Vash became angry. Knives actually saved much more butterflies in the long run, because the spider won't kill any more butterflies in the future.
Vash would rather save both the spider and 1 butterfly, which will eventually result in much more dead butterflies in the future since the spider is still alive.
Vash would have to imprison the spider and feed it some kind of high protein plant based substitute for the rest of the spider's life. Either that or follow the spider for the rest of it's life and continually save butterflies until the spider starves to death.
Since Vash isn't willing to do any of the basic things necessary to ensure human public safety (Such as when he allowed Gasback to walkaway from a bank heist in the movie "Trigun Badlands Rumble", then obviously he's ok with the spider killing many future butterflies as long as he doesn't have to bear witness to it.
You can't compare Vash to batman just because they both don't kill. Joker breaks out of maximum security prisons. But at least Batman tried his best to ensure public safety. Vash allows serial murderers to walk off into the sunset, with absolutely zero consequences.
Morality is a luxury. Without civilization (technology/economy/laws/infrastructure), morality is a luxury almost no one can afford.
Vash is equally as moronic as Morgan from the walking dead.
Vash the Stampede is quite possibly the worst anime character ever created.
Such a waste of my time. Watched a couple of episodes. I looked at the IMDB ratings, and assumed that I would end up loving Trigun. I was only two episodes into the series, and I made a crappy decision to purchase these two statues:
http://www.amazon.com/Kotobukiya-Trigun-Stampede-Gunman-ArtFXJ/dp/B00E5MG184/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1454704007&sr=1-2&keywords=vash+the+stampede
http://www.amazon.com/Kotobukiya-Trigun-Badlands-Nicholas-Wolfwood/dp/B00AQA0N06/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1454704027&sr=1-2&keywords=nicholas+d+wolfwood
They haven't even arrived yet, and I'm already cancelling the order because I don't want eternal reminders of the single worst anime, and anime characters I've ever encountered in my entire life staring me in the face for the rest of my days.
Two eternal reminders of the hours of life I'll never get back. I don't even care if I don't get a full refund. I would rather throw those hellish things away, than sell them and risk having some poor shmuck bamboozled into thinking that the anime is actually worth watching.