Anyone think Jane was a bitch?
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njiuma — 10 years ago(January 14, 2016 12:54 PM)
Yes, Jane was a brat.
But her parents were were not properly parenting her.
The underlying theme appears to be that selfishness (the entire family) combined with prosperity (Lester got a $60K/year w/benes severance package, a great salary in 1999 and not too bad even now for a family of 3 with his wife working) can lead to a poor family experience for everyone.
Jane's parents needed to rebuild and restore their family relationship.
They didn't want to work together, maybe go to church as a family, get counseling, get a spiritual focus. They instead looked inwardly on themselves, how they're not being attended to, what they want, selfishness, and instant gratification.
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Lester_Burnham_Risen — 10 years ago(January 16, 2016 07:49 PM)
Sweet Jesus don't figure in the American Beauty
Nietzsche spake to that 150 years before re Krautenis Ultimus having killed God for the benefit of Ultimate Man, not knowing his soul mate Zarathustra was accurately forecasting Americanus Ultimus, starting 1970.
Lester needed a daughter who was a role model
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njiuma — 10 years ago(February 12, 2016 09:10 AM)
Sweet Jesus don't figure in the American Beauty
- ? i don't understand this sentence
Nietzsche spake to that 150 years before re Krautenis Ultimus having killed God for the benefit of Ultimate Man, not knowing his soul mate Zarathustra was accurately forecasting Americanus Ultimus, starting 1970. - i am not familiar with this legend and haven't educated myself with Nietzsche. the screenwriter(s) may have intended what you are referencing as a part of or underlying theme of the story.
Lester needed a daughter who was a role model - this may be true either philosophically and/or as an intention of the story.
However, i am speaking as if it were a real-life scenario
(obviously Lester would still be alive because no one narrates their life story after they've died).
an adult typically ought to BE a role model for their child, spouse, and community - not need their child to be one for them.
i believe:
Jane was a spoiled brat. A result of poor parenting and a "me" focused society.
Her parents were were not properly parenting her. Christian, Biblical parenting often (though not always - the "PK" i.e. "Pastor's Kid" hellion is a cliche but also a truism) results in humbler, more understanding kids and more genuinely loving, supportive parents.
The underlying theme appears to be that selfishness (the entire family) combined with prosperity can lead to a poor family experience.
Jane's parents needed to rebuild and restore their family relationship.
They didn't want to work together, go to church as a family, get counseling, get a spiritual focus. They instead looked inwardly on themselves, how they're not being attended to, what they want, selfishness, and instant gratification.
Thus, the "American Dream" is mirrored in the "American Beauty" title, film, and story: the American Dream is only truly realized if material prosperity is balanced with spiritual focus and personal sacrifice.
As Art often imitates life, I think that in real life they could have worked through their dysfunction and had a great family together. But that would make a rather boring story unless the intent were for a "Hallmark genre" film.
As I see it, their dysfunction
led to his murder in the end.
"If you love Jesus Christ and are 100% proud of it copy this and make it your signature!"
- ? i don't understand this sentence