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    cryptoflovecraft — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 01:41 AM)

    By Finian Cunningham
    February 15, 2020
    Maybe the Democratic Party should sometimes listen to President Trump for a change instead of reflexively deriding him at every turn. The party is desperate to beat the Republican incumbent whom it hates with a vengeance. So as the Democrats prepare to nominate their presidential candidate from a crowded field, who gives them the best chance at winning the election in November?
    According to the president himself, it is Bernie Sanders, whom he fears most.
    Asked whether Trump would prefer to run against Sanders or billionaire tycoon Michael Bloomberg, the president said this week: “Frankly, I’d rather run against Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders,” speaking to reporters at the White House. “Because Sanders has real followers, whether you like him or not, whether you agree with him or not. I happen to think it’s terrible what he says. But he has followers. Bloomberg’s just buying his way in.”
    Bloomberg, a former mayor of New York City and media mogul, is spending tens of millions of dollars to promote himself as the Democratic presidential candidate. The party will nominate its candidate at a convention in Milwaukee in July.
    But as the Democrat primaries get underway across the US, it is Bernie Sanders, the 78-year-old senator from Vermont, who has shown the early lead. The self-declared socialist won the popular vote in Iowa last week despite a debacle over delegate counts. This week, Sanders topped the ballot in the state of New Hampshire.
    Later this month, the Democrat campaign moves on to Nevada and South Carolina before the Super Tuesday races take place in heavyweight states like California and Texas.
    In his victory speech in New Hampshire, Sanders told ecstatic supporters: “We’re going to Nevada, we’re going to South Carolina, we’re going to win those next as well… Let me say that this victory here is the beginning of the end for Donald Trump.”
    Sanders’ confidence about doing battle against Trump for the White House is due to the same reason that Trump fears him: Sanders has got a formidable grassroots movement of supporters and campaign organizers. No-one among the other Democrat candidates has inspired the same verve among supporters. Sanders has tapped into crucial demographic groups of youth, students, workers and ethnic minorities. He seems to have galvanized that enviable vital power – popular momentum.
    Another key political weapon is policy relevance. As Sanders said: “Our agenda speaks to the pain of the working families of this country.”
    After Iowa and New Hampshire, the electoral stars of Senator Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden, the former vice president under Obama, have faded.
    However, Pete Buttigieg and Senator Amy Klobuchar have emerged as two candidates vying with Sanders for the Democratic ticket. They came in second and third, respectively, in the New Hampshire primary.
    Both of these candidates have been relatively unknown until recently. Klobuchar even jokes that voters don’t know how to spell her name most of the time. While Buttigieg, a former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, has a boyish image and an opaque military career as a soldier in Afghanistan with alleged links to CIA covert ops.
    There is more than a suspicion that the Democratic Party hierarchy is grooming Buttigieg and Klobuchar to stand as the “centrist” candidates in a bid to maximize appeal for mainstream voters.
    As the New York Times put it this week: “The Democratic contest seems to be coming down to the question of whether the party will move to the left with Mr Sanders, a democratic socialist, or to the center with Mr Buttigieg or even Senator Amy Klobuchar, who was in a strong third.
    The newspaper let slip the possibility of a party stitch-up against Sanders when it admitted, “the traditional structures of the Democratic Party are set to mobilize against Mr Sanders out of fear of his revolutionary brand of democratic socialism.”
    This is where the tactical and anti-democratic machinations of 2016 are in danger of repeating with disastrous consequences. Back then, Bernie Sanders had energized youth and workers for radical change in Washington, similar to the way he is doing again in this electoral cycle. But the Democratic grandees thought they knew better four years ago by backing Hillary Clinton as the presidential candidate. The fetid cronyism of the Democratic Party hierarchy could not see that Clinton was despised by many ordinary Americans for her bland centrism and connections to big business.
    By denying Bernie Sanders the chance to run for the presidency in 2016, the Democratic Party machinery not only snubbed the democratic wishes of ordinary party members and wider voters, they inevitably let maverick Donald Trump scoop up the massive voter-discontent among American citizens who are sick of the warmongering duopoly in Washington, also known as “the swamp”.
    This time around, incredibly, there is no sign that the corrupt Democratic hierarchy has learnt anything about their flawe

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      MissDonna — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 01:47 AM)

      Bernie can say whatever he wants, but a republican will become the next elected president of the USA.

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        Soul_Venom — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 10:12 AM)

        Lol! The ONLY way the democrats could beat Trump is if they switched to a libertarian platform and convinced both Ben Shapiro and Trey Gowdy to run against him as democrats.
        Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!

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          cryptoflovecraft — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 01:45 PM)

          Thanks! I needed a good laugh this morning.

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            WhatIsMyLife — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 10:50 AM)

            He is too old and near death.
            my forehead makes people call me down syndromed 4 israel

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              WhatIsMyLife — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 10:51 AM)

              What if he dies during the campaign or during his presidency. You need to think like that.
              https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/30/bernie-sanders-releases-medical-history-after-heart-attack.html
              https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/us/politics/bernie-sanders-hospital.html
              my forehead makes people call me down syndromed 4 israel

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                cryptoflovecraft — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 01:50 PM)

                The future of America is AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Tulsi Gabbard.

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                  WhatIsMyLife — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 02:28 PM)

                  Other possibilities include American civil war, USNA/USMXCA, democracy becomes an empire..
                  my forehead makes people call me down syndromed 4 israel

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                      Anyusernamewilldo — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 02:34 PM)

                      Bernie is the only one with a chance

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                          Yermom_Is_God — 6 years ago(February 17, 2020 08:22 PM)

                          "I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot

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                            Comnander_Jim — 6 years ago(February 27, 2020 03:14 AM)

                            We will never elect a ****.
                            I crushed the pathetic loser troll Cuck_Venom and rebuilt him as my toilet

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                              Spyro Bandicoot Elsa Anna Olaf — 6 years ago(February 27, 2020 03:33 AM)

                              The Democrats are going to get TRUMPED

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                                Birchest — 6 years ago(March 01, 2020 08:32 AM)

                                Then the Democrats have no hope. Even the Democratic party is trying to stop Bernie. No one wants him.

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                                  cryptoflovecraft — 6 years ago(March 01, 2020 03:29 PM)

                                  No one wants him.
                                  The party elites and their subservient media (MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post) don't want him but many working class, minority and millennial voters do. Bernie built a huge movement over the past five years; the other Democratic candidates don't have anything like it. Only Trump's base can match Bernie's in terms of size and support. Bernie Bros are the Deplorables of the Left.

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                                    Anyusernamewilldo — 6 years ago(March 01, 2020 03:41 PM)

                                    That's why the voters keep voting for him. You're a ****ing idiot who believes one or two jagoffs on TV

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                                      Platonic_Caveman — 6 years ago(March 01, 2020 08:54 AM)

                                      Trump is just posturing. He's terrified that billionaire Bloomberg might run against him. He's doing a macho bluff.
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