Anyone else DEEPLY disturbed by the bashing of the Japaense guy?
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Kotkijet — 19 years ago(May 10, 2006 06:56 AM)
The scene didn't disturb me at all. I thought it was hilarious, largely because it was such a ridiculous scenario. (beating some waiter up over shoes, not the actual reason - the wire)
All in all, I saw it as good art. Some actor pretending to be beaten by a group of actors.
However, I can completely sympathise with those who were disturbed because it's understandable feeling uneasy if one put oneself in the waiter's shoes and went over and over the emotions the poor lad was feeling. -
quebecstation — 19 years ago(May 12, 2006 06:13 AM)
I just watched it for the second time,and I have to admit,this scene really did disturb me.I think it's the noises the waiter makes as he's being beaten - which is obviously what was intended,as the following scene is of Donnie/Joe listening to his tape recording of the beating.I don't think the waiter was out of line at all and definitely didn't deserve that.The whole point of the scene is that Donnie is upset by it and the fact that this poor guy had to suffer that because of him.
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quebecstation — 19 years ago(May 13, 2006 02:18 PM)
The waiter didn't ask for it.He was just doing his job.Realistically,the most that any normal person would do is get into an argument or leave the restaurant but the point is to show the gangsters believe themselves to be superior to everyone else and think they can get away with anything.
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fiverites — 19 years ago(May 22, 2006 06:02 PM)
Although that incident did not happen during Pistone's investigation, I thought it was necessary to the movie. It showed how Pistone had to think on his feet, and the bond, trust and mutual respect that he and Sonny were having. Notice how Sonny and the crew were all obliging at first, and Sonny was getting annoyed at Donnie for holding them up. Donnie had to make up on the spot that the reason he was an orphan was because his father was killed in the Korean War, refusing to acknowledge any asian custom. Thus, in turn stirred Sonny's emotions, feeling Donnie's so called loss. Sonny stands up for Donnie now stating that Donnie, nor any of them will remove their shoes out of respect to Donnie's dead father. Now when the waiter/host still refuses to seat them without the removal of their shoes, the beating occursthis was done purely for Donnie's benefit more than the non-compliance of the waiter/host. Donnie listening to the beating on the tape later shows that the risk of his investigation is not solely on him, but on anyone he happens to come across. It was either him or the waiter.
I recommened to anyone who has not read the book 'Donnie Brasco' My undercover life in the Mafia by Joe Pistone and Richard Woodley and enjoy the movie, to do so without hesitation. It's so much more in depth and you will really begin to understand the Mafia as it isnot what you see in most other movies.
Joe Pistone aka Donnie Brasco, did an amazing job, and I cannot begin to imagine what is was like for him and his family from the day he went under to today, where there is still a open $500,000 contract out on his life, but that book will give the reader an inkling.
Joseph D. Pistone, I salute you, and to the original poster, yes, I find this scene hard to watch also. -
tony_longuinio — 19 years ago(May 24, 2006 08:57 AM)
I couldn't agree more. Am not exactly a big fannadiss movie but I enjoyed it when I saw it.
Think ovvit diss way: You have two people so two points of view
Pistone/Brasco: Has a tape recorder in his boot and, if he takes his boots
of, he will blow his cover and may even be killed.
Waiter at Jappo place:Doing his job. Dusnt know that Brasco is a stoolie Fed
and he suffered the consequences of insisting Brasco
removes his footwear.
Its your call but I gotta side wid Donnie-boy on diss
Good impro by Donnie/Joe
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sutava — 19 years ago(August 09, 2006 01:37 PM)
I'd cope by telling your caveman government to stick it's military service up it's ass and choose prison time instead. And yeah I know all too well what prison's are like in many other countries, I've studied many Amnesty International reports.
Maybe you have no balls and can't say no to being trained as an enforced murderer and are too chicken beep to go to prison instead?