There’s a huge violent protest happening in Russia against Putin as well
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Mina — 5 years ago(February 02, 2021 02:47 AM)
Actually that was quite interesting. This is the very first I am hearing about that. The protests I was referring to were of the citizens of Russia upset that Putin had a beloved political radical assasinated via poison.
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cryptoflovecraft — 5 years ago(February 02, 2021 03:24 AM)
Glad you found it interesting. Thanks for watching.
Putin had a beloved political radical assasinated via poison
Are you talking about Navalny? He was allegedly poisoned while visiting Siberia but he managed to survive and recovered in a German hospital. I have trouble believing that Putin ordered his poisoning because I'm sure that if Putin wanted Navalny dead that guy would've been dead long ago. Worse yet, the entire ordeal has only strengthened the opposition and caused international outrage. Putin's no dummy, he wouldn't take such a risk. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 02, 2021 04:35 AM)
The world is better off with a stabilizing factor like Putin in power.
I like Navalny's nationalism but he's too much of a wild card.
I would be very curious to know what
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thinks about Navalny - and Putin for that matter.
I also must admit I've become very pro-Putin after learning he is a Russian Orthodox believer. It gives him ethical stature. Though of course men like Putin are above good and evil. They have to be.
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rouge — 5 years ago(February 03, 2021 04:50 AM)
He’s (was?) a bit of a dunce. And yeah, the nationalism is a turn off for me personally. He’s kind of like the Nigel Farag of Russia lol
I’m not pro-Putin at all, but I’m definitely not a “anything but” either
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 03, 2021 05:16 AM)
Russia is an an odd situation. Their system is still not much different than that of Soviet socialism. Yet they have right wing nationalists gaining popularity without offering any economic alternative to the Soviet system.
And still the old Communist bureaucracy with Putin as their leader has no intention of ever ceding power.
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Upsizing — 5 years ago(February 05, 2021 08:07 PM)
I also must admit I've become very pro-Putin after learning he is a Russian Orthodox believer. It gives him ethical stature.
His religion gives him ethical stature? You are out of your mind. He suppresses political opposition through assassination of those who challenge him. There is absolutely nothing ethical about Putin, much like most so-called "religious" leaders. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 05, 2021 09:07 PM)
We are talking about a man who was a KGB agent. He's the leader of Russia, not a nice guy.
Whether you're Putin, Biden, Trump or Obama - you don't get to the pinnacle of world power by being a nice guy. They're all ruthless. There's blood on all their hands. I hold Barack Obama personally responsible for every American soldier and Iraqi civilian killed while he oversaw America's invasion of that nation.
You don't get my point. From KGB to Russian Orthodox is a step in the right direction.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 05, 2021 09:24 PM)
Why is it a great point? Is it because he gets to celebrate Christmas on the wrong day?
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 02:20 AM)
You mean he celebrates Christmas on the right day. I was raised Orthodox so obviously I can give him a nod of familiarity.
Of course I know some of the biggest tyrants on earth were religious. That's why I pointed out that men at his level of power are all going to hell anyway. They must be brutal and Machiavellian to get where they are. Like I said, Saint Obama has blood on his hands too.
I grew up during the Cold War. The Soviet system, the Gulag, the enforced atheism, the KGB which Putin worked for - that system is finally dead when a Russian tyrant is as Orthodox as the Czar. That was my point.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 04:09 AM)
He symbolizes the death of the Soviet Union and its stern application of scientific socialism with the return of the Czars. That's a good thing for the West.
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:15 AM)
Honestly I'm not too concerned about democracy in non-Western countries with no democratic tradition.
You should check out Arnold Toynbee, the historian who outlined the difference between different civilizations. Russia is part of Orthodox civilization. What they do is none of our business. They were only relevant when they were the great hope of Marxism.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:37 PM)
I have. And his intellectual successor Samuel P. Huntington with the clash of civilizations.
I am somewhat surprised that you as an Orthodox person are cool with Orthodox societies being seen as inherently despotic and undynamic, but hey, different strokes!
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Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 06:54 PM)
Jared Kushner said...
I have. And his intellectual successor Samuel P. Huntington with the clash of civilizations.
I am somewhat surprised that you as an Orthodox person are cool with Orthodox societies being seen as inherently despotic and undynamic, but hey, different strokes!
Three cheers for Pootie!!!
As an American I have learned by watching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan that we only create havoc when we try to spread "democracy".
You do realize I hope that before the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, there was a progressive Marxist government, women in positions of power, no ****ing burka requirement, and no "dancing boys" i.e. male child prostitutes. We sure fixed Afghanistan after we told Russia to butt out.
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Jared Kushner — 5 years ago(February 06, 2021 08:19 PM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
As an American I have learned by watching the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan that we only create havoc when we try to spread "democracy".
You do realize I hope that before the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, there was a progressive Marxist government, women in positions of power, no fucking burka requirement, and no "dancing boys" i.e. male child prostitutes. We sure fixed Afghanistan after we told Russia to butt out.
You mean before the US support for the mujahideen in the 80s. The way you wrote that, the casual reader could think that the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001-02 toppled a liberal, secular regime. That skips over a few chapters, including the Taliban.