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    mlfouchey — 17 years ago(May 29, 2008 10:36 AM)

    Granted it will make for great cheesy saturday afternoon B grade horror watching 40 years from now but it really was a stinker.
    I can't believe some think the effects were good ! I expected more I guess from this cast .
    If cheesy low budget bad lines look is what they were shooting for then it's not bad but still no Ed Wood classic.
    The pairing of Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer ? Someone could have poured gas on them and struck a match and it wouldn't have lit. no chemistry !

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        Montmartre1 — 17 years ago(December 18, 2008 01:28 PM)

        I liked it.
        It was satircal I thoughtnot at all a "horror" film and I think it worked.
        But that's only my opinion.

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          rayraysworld — 17 years ago(December 18, 2008 03:29 PM)

          I love this. It would be in my top 50 all time movie list. It never gets boring, Pfeiffer is stunning in it and Spader is the perfect sleazeball bad guy.

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            Montmartre1 — 17 years ago(December 18, 2008 10:57 PM)

            I agree. Spader is absolutely perfect in it!
            I think irony and satire must be lost on a lot of people.
            It was so enjoyable and well-acted. And we can guess how well suited Michelle P and Nicholson are at the end!
            glad you liked it too!

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              koffeenkreame41-1 — 12 years ago(November 13, 2013 09:59 AM)

              Spader was a great villain, Jack, Plummer & Michelle were great too, love this film! Couldn't disagree more with the OP.
              "I am the ultimate badass, you do not wanna *beep* wit me!"- Hudson in Aliens.

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                mvassa71 — 16 years ago(April 10, 2009 03:45 PM)

                You are so right. People misunderstand this flick, big time. The werewolf story is secondary to the human story. Which is great. And funny. And the lines are witty, well crafted, and delivered superbly by a great cast.
                If people were looking for gore and special effects, then of course they'll be disappointed.
                That's not what the film was attempting to do.

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                  Montmartre1 — 16 years ago(April 14, 2009 02:09 AM)

                  thanks!
                  I agree with your points as you laid them out.
                  it's a funny, witty film. it's a satire in a way and it achieves everything it sets out to do.
                  those who wanted yet another werewolf film replete with gore, etc., were squirming in their seats with boredom.
                  Thanks again, you made my day!

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                      indigol — 16 years ago(October 12, 2009 01:30 PM)

                      The werewolf story is secondary to the human story.
                      The werewolf part is the main reason that this flick appeals to
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                      horror fans.
                      There was hardly much difference in being Will Randall or 'wolved' Will Randall thus no real story-telling without the "wolf" interplay. Take out the werewolf and this film falls very short in being more than a okay film with a "all-star" cast on its own.
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                        dragon_x — 16 years ago(October 25, 2009 10:25 AM)

                        wow. I can see why people may not like the film - if they are looking for good special effects or should I say 'realistic' type effects. Hmmm. Bad acting? Predictable? Well the acting is great and its only predictable to a point. Yeah, I think most of us knew who killed the wifey. Clearly they do not turn into wolves or dogs like say Underworld, but what they do works very well for this film.
                        I think the producers originally wanted to make Nicholson, etc more wolf like and that may have pleased those special effects junkies, but in the end the choice to go more humanistic worked well.
                        James Spader is definitely the perfect sleazy, backstabbing bad guy!

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                          DavidStHubbinsUSA — 16 years ago(April 30, 2009 02:20 AM)

                          I agree it sucks I can count on one hand the movies I've either walked out on or should have and this was a should have. When it came out I was excited Love Jack and this seemed perfect for him. No chemistry, bad story, bad acting, bad special effects.. BAD..

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                            tag65 — 16 years ago(May 28, 2009 12:59 PM)

                            I liked this movie a lot, and agree that it's about the laughs and the characters, and not the thrills. Michelle and Jack are a hoot, and seem to be having a ball.
                            That's a sexy little growl from Jack, and a sexy little laugh from Michelle, as the handcuffs scene fades out. I disagree with the view that they had no chemistry. I think you'd have to be dead to not respond to either of them!

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                              Tampsterdam — 16 years ago(July 01, 2009 11:12 AM)

                              sucked.

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                                drystyx — 16 years ago(July 06, 2009 12:44 AM)

                                SPOILER-I gave it a fairly low grade. I liked a few things, but overall, very stereotype and very predicable, even to the point that there was no suspense, and for some reason, soon as the wife was killed, I somehow knew who did it and how. The killer was just too off kilter and too easy to read. It was pretty well telegraphed with one scene earlier that the lycanthropy didn't turn a man evil unless he already was, and the wife betrayed the other guy in trying to come back to Nicholson, so even though Nicholson didn't like her, he had no motive to kill her like the other guy did. Did any one else think it was obvious soon as the wife was killed?
                                Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time
                                that's not funny!

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                                  Captain_Bob — 16 years ago(July 08, 2009 11:01 AM)

                                  "stinker"? Wow I'm going to report you to the IMDB moderators for use of obscene language. Holy cow, jeepers that is so dog gone gosh darn offensive.

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                                    robobeatnik — 16 years ago(July 11, 2009 01:01 AM)

                                    http://www.illtellyou.wordpress.com
                                    If the word "stinker" offends you, then you definitely don't want to click on that link.
                                    "Do you really think it's cool to hit the sauce with a bun in the oven?"

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                                      bazdalikalo — 16 years ago(September 07, 2009 10:32 AM)

                                      I wonder what did you who think that it stinks expected from this film???
                                      Obviously did not get it right.
                                      I mean Jack Nicholson, Michael Pfeiffer and James Spader in a werewolf movie, that alone makes it worth to watch and plus it is very clever satirical movie that only has a little bit of horror intertwined.
                                      And rating 5.9 is hilarious, I guess if some attractive but mediocre actors
                                      like Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp had played leading role it would probably be 7 or 8 as it deserves!

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                                        kwally32 — 16 years ago(October 31, 2009 07:58 AM)

                                        I haven't read through the other posts yet, but I can't be the only one who thought that James Spader as a werewolf looked just like the Lucky Charms leprechaun. I agree with you on this one.this film is definetly good for some laughs, but that's it. The shots of an overweight, middle aged man leaping high in the air just had me on the floor laughing. And speaking of leaping-whenever one of the "werewolves" leapt at something, you could almost see the harness jerking them airborne.I thought Michelle Pfeiffer looked beautiful and that was all. I really wish they had ended the movie with the scene where she informed the cops that she could smell the liquor on their breaths-that would have let the audience know that she is now a werewolf, omitted the cheesy final scene, and redeemed some of the sheer ridiculousness of the crappy special effects.

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                                          soapyuk — 15 years ago(July 18, 2010 05:04 PM)

                                          Agree this film was pure comedy,the Spader leap with the sheers LOL.The double film loop of jack jumping up to the barn bars LOL ppl saying this beats john landis's American werewolf must be in the "why has Chuck Norris never won a Oscar" category.Good cast terrible last second half ever,i and a room full of ppl were laughing like crazy.
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