Homosexual Subtext
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pannpost — 21 years ago(February 07, 2005 04:30 PM)
I guess some people can find 'Homosexual Subtext' in anything. I certainly get the impression there was any homosexual undertone.
And even if there were.who the hell cares? Homophobes should either get a life, grow up or better yet, keep their tawdry outdated opinions to themselves. -
babyminnow — 20 years ago(February 04, 2006 03:05 PM)
I haven't even seen this movie and yet I assumed from the start, when somebody told me about it two years ago, that there would be an underlying tone that could be taken various ways. Not that I would care if any of them really are homosexual. 'Tis still love.
Gay cowboys- real Godsends! -
pioneergrrrl — 19 years ago(July 02, 2006 01:56 PM)
I saw this movie as a pre-teen who had a crush on Luke Perry. A couple of scenes which I now recognize as 'homosexual subtext' are memorable.
Kellie wakes up in a hotel very suprised to find out Tuff Hedman and Cody Lambert are in bed with her and Lane (!) Considering they are dating, I had always figured Kellie and Lane wanted privacy.
After a priceless SHOCKED look on her face, she then handles this sittuation really well (she doesn't go off screaming..etc) but it would still raise very interesting questions. Why are other guys in the same hotel room with them? It's obvious from their comfort level this is a regular and normal occurence.
Also, there's a scene where Lane suffers a crotch injury and Tuff decides to 'watch over' him. Lane's obviously in a lot of pain, but Tuff draws it out, playing around with the words that he's using to describe his friend's injuries. It's actually like cooing now that I think about itplus his face gets awfully close to the area itselfbut just for clarification nothing is ever shown.
These to me have always been the most blatant examplesand a reason why this movie's more overt with the subtext than 'Top Gun'. Maybe it was prepping us for 'Brokeback'.
Kudos to the cast for being comfortable with doing these scenes themselves. I bet there are still actors who would not do it regardless of how much they were being paid! -
pioneergrrrl — 19 years ago(August 02, 2006 11:54 AM)
It's just the way the scene is set up. She is supposed to be supprised.
Tuff is interested in examining Lane.
I've been around rodeos and yes, the actual thing does not have hollywood subtext.
I think this film WAS a preparation for 'Brokeback' regardless of what the real-life people who were supposedly being depicted did/did not do with each other. -
xDirty-Little-Secretx — 19 years ago(October 23, 2006 03:00 PM)
I have been around rodeos my whole life.
and if you ask me.
It's perfectly normal for cowboys to bunk with each other.
oh and by the way.
The reason Tuff and Cody were in the same bed was because there were only two bed in the hotel room, and Kellie and Lane already had the first one. Where was Cody or Tuff gonna sleep? The floor? And the reason Kellie was surprised they were there is because her and Lane wanted some privacy, and didn't want them there to "watch" them. which is why she said. "greatjust great".
duhh.
and not sure about the crotch injury thing, but to my guesses, I suppose the reason was either
a. because he was checking to see if it was swollen, orsomething.
b. he was trying to prove a point.
c. it was an implement to a good speech.
or
d. because he was worried and wanted to make sure he would be able to ride, so they could get a check.
trust me. I know these things because that's all my family is. There is NO homosexuality in 8 seconds period. So buh bye.
you spin me right round, baby right round. -
hollycecilia — 19 years ago(December 29, 2006 12:01 PM)
Obviously, several people here have never been around rodeo. I remember many a time when my husband and I were in one of the beds, and 2 or 3 cowboys were in the other and like as not, there'd be 3 or 4 more on the floor. Homosexual hanky-panky? No. Privacy? Yeah, rightbut Lord, I miss those days!
Troika go bragh! -
wildchildintn04 — 18 years ago(August 29, 2007 09:31 PM)
First off, I have seen the movie several times and I don't get any sort of homosexual feel from it
Second off, so what if it did have something in it??? What do you care? Are you obsessed?? Get a life! If you don't want to watch it, then don't watch it. That's your choice. Obviously you are homophobic or are homosexual and are seeking approval..lol..
Whatever, grow up and get a hobbyone besides stalking homosexual references -
mathmaniac — 18 years ago(January 05, 2008 07:22 PM)
So guys feel love for each other (and actually say it sometimes, as they do in this movie). Girls do too - love each other and say it to each other. 'Get a life is right' - realize that every time someone of the same sex loves another person, it doesn't mean they want to get in their pants. That's what friendship is - love. Sorry. Get a grip.
As far as Hollywood jumping on the topic for Brokeback Mountain - as if they were exposing something so hidden - again, get real and read a book, for heaven's sake. Annie Proulx wrote the story. In a book of stories taking place in the West. And Nabokov wrote 'Lolita'. And so on and so forth. It's called literature, and it invents what it can't witness firsthand. It's called creative license. It's called imagination. It's not called 'The Story of My Life' (unless you do live like some gay cowboy or some pedophile stepdad)
Loved the movie. Hate the interpretation of the cowboys loving each other. Read the tributes (at his website) to the hero of the movie. He was a loved and loving man. They are heterosexual, guys like that, also. -
dg_hurley — 18 years ago(January 19, 2008 07:20 PM)
ya know, ya gotta think about something here: lane, tuff, & cody spent a whole lotta time together out on the road. they didn't have much money right off, either. think about it: one bed/one motel room is much cheaper than 3 motel rooms would be. also, i don't think cody and tuff were actually in the same bed with kellie and lane. if i remember correctly, they were just in the same room with them.
they were just VERY comfortable with one another, i'd bet. they're kinda young and like most young people, they don't mind sleeping together when they have to. (i don't mean sexjust in the same bed, is all) me and my girlfriends used to do it when we went on youth trips together: get one motel room, share a bed. it's not that uncommon, really.
also, just cos they have "brotherly love" for one another does not mean they are homosexuals. i have love for my best friend like a sister, and that does mean we are lesbians who have trysts behind her husband's backand if she died, i'd probably lose my mind over it cos we're so close, we're almost family
to all of you who think it's some kinda homosexual movie, get a life! it's just a movie about a hero in the rodeo circuit who had a tragic end and the people who loved him. nothing more.
"Oh, Baby, you're my drug
I was just your cigarette!"
~Miranda Lambert -
grascilda — 17 years ago(January 04, 2009 12:20 PM)
I think the movie was also trying to portray the brotherhood of rodeo and friends. Nowhere else will you find more loyal, loving, fraternization than rodeo people. They band together. There is even memorials and funds for injured rodeo participants now.
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sam-robertson — 17 years ago(January 17, 2009 02:28 AM)
I was starting wonder what was wrong with you guys over there as to how you can read somthing so wrong as i to have been around rodeos most of my life and counld not see the homosexual subtext that yous were going on about as it is just loyalty, friendship and mates banding together.