Fallen
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — The First Power
the_Iced_Earth — 20 years ago(March 20, 2006 08:19 AM)
Someone on the fallen boards said how Fallen was an EXACT ripoff of this movie. How accurate are they? I've heard of The First Power, but never seen it.
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Dr_RoButtnik — 19 years ago(April 28, 2006 05:26 AM)
It's pretty close. This movie's much more ridiculous, but the idea of a killer that can inhabit any body because of this odd demon thing is exactly the same. While this is much more of an action-thriller, Fallen is a lot more of a mystery-suspense. I mean really the main idea of a cop who has an obsession with catching a serial killer (a killer he had earlier caught and thought he killed) who in turn has an obsession with tormenting that cop, is the same. It seems like a lot, but Fallen does take it a different direction.
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deejames — 18 years ago(July 10, 2007 02:05 PM)
The two movies have the same basic concept. A Satan worshiper is executed and then becomes more powerful because he can possess or inherit anybody's body and seemingly can't be killed. I like both movies. I don't know if Fallen is a rip-off of The First Power. They may be based on books and Fallen was written before The First Power for all I know. The First Power did come before Fallen but I personally like Fallen better, even though Fallen doesn't have the hot red-headed chick. How come she hasn't been in more movies. I'm in love with her, even though she's almost 20 years older now.
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saraidmac — 18 years ago(October 04, 2007 08:17 PM)
I have seen Fallen half a dozen times on TV because I am a big fan of both Denzel Washington and also "horror" movies (I agree with the writers who said that TFP was more of an action movie and I thought that Fallen was a suspensful police procedural.) Obviously, I thought that Fallen was a very good movie. I saw TFP for the first time last night on DVD in my hotel room on my little personal DVD player. I thought it was the scariest movie I had seen in a long long time, which is my test for a horror movie. Given the conditions under which I watched it, I think that it had to be REALLY frightening. I will grant you all that it had some weakenesses, which I think reflected a low budget status. I did think that LDP's clothing, sunglasses, boots were all weird affectations which emphasized that we were in a different "time zone"
to say the least. Main point: I think that there are many many movies that are as similar as these two without raising any controversy. And these two movies are very very differentin tone and approach and in the solutions and denouement. Fallen is much more cerebral and intellectual. Denzel does not seek for solutions in the same way LDP does. Fallen's devil never appears as himself and so on. Compare the Matrix, Dark City and the Thirteenth Floor all of which generally deal with the question of the nature of reality and posit a
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iishadowchildii — 16 years ago(April 23, 2009 06:40 PM)
Surprised no one mentioned Wes Craven's Shocker out before both of the aforementioned titles and very very similar in concept.
But at the end of the day, who really cares? Broken down to the basics, there are a LOT of movies in a variety of genres that are essentially the same. Original ideas rarely make it to the big screen. -
PapaT_86 — 16 years ago(October 23, 2009 03:09 AM)
Yeah, and
The Hidden
(perhaps the best of the lot) and
The Horror Show
aka
House 3
. There was also a recent foreign film that used the same idea but I can't remember the title. Basically, there have been a number of horror films that used the same idea as
The First Power
and a few of them pre-date it, so I'm not sure if I'd say
Fallen
was a rip-off of
The First Power
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hecantune — 16 years ago(December 08, 2009 07:04 PM)
I like The First Power more but Fallen is
hardly
a "ripoff". It's got a similar premise and that's about it. People are constantly taking a few similarities between movies and blowing them out of proportion.
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 14 years ago(August 29, 2011 12:43 PM)
How is it the same? Patrick was a devil worshipper that can't be killed, his spirit can move from body to body. In Fallen, a demon possesses a guy (Elias Koteas) and has him go on a killing spree. He's captured and given the gas chamber and dies. The spirit leaves the body and begins to mess with Denzel's head. Killing someone, leaving their body and killing that same person whose body it left just fvck with DW's head. While I LOVE both films, Fallen's a better film, some parts of TFP are a little over the top but both films are definetely scary.
Other than a guy getting the gas chamber and dying in it only to return and torment the cop, nothing else is the same, there is a woman that helps DW but she isn't a psychic. Both films are different, almost like comparing Angel Heart & Devil's Advocate, both films have voodoo, right? Or Sixth Sense & Stir of Echoes, both main kids see ghosts, right?
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