What is so bad about it?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Die Hard 2
Web_Head91 — 12 years ago(July 12, 2013 01:00 PM)
I'm new to the Die Hard series (better late than never), and I've only seen the first one a few days ago. I'm going to watch this as soon as I can, but I see that many people don't seem to like it much. I'd like to get general thoughts and avoid spoilers, but I realize getting spoiled is the risk I take when making a post like this. But what is so bad about this film? It'll take a few days for me to get to watch it, so I want to hear from others before I do.
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MovieMaster95 — 12 years ago(July 25, 2013 09:08 AM)
It's not bad at all, it just has a few problems. The original Die Hard is often praised as the best action movie ever because of it's sophisticated filmmaking, intelligent script, memorable characters and exciting action and suspense. Die Hard 2 was basically the studio giving the fans more of what they loved from the original but also trying to make everything bigger and better. It's darker, more violent, more action packed, more foul mouthed and more tongue in cheek. It's a real blast and as long as you don't take it 100% seriously, you'll probably enjoy it.
Still it has it's issues. Like I said above, the movie is trying to give us more of what we got from the original and Die Hard 2 is very self aware. There are numerous references to the original and McClane even points out how ridiculous the situation is. The tension from the original isn't quite here. It's still an exciting flick but it's more about big exciting set pieces rather than, 'Will McClane survive?'. The characters while memorable, aren't as well written as the original and there's a few plot inconsistencies that you may notice. Still, these are only minor problems. If you really loved Die Hard, there's a good chance you'll enjoy the first sequel. And even if you don't, check out Die Hard with a Vengeance, the third film which many Die Hard fans consider the best sequel. Do yourself a favour and don't bother with 4 and 5
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ultimatenexus — 12 years ago(December 24, 2013 06:36 PM)
It's a bit more over-the-top and ridiculous but I think it's one of those movies that polarized fans many regard it as the best of the sequels (I sure do) and others dislike it a little more.
It's definitely worth a watch, though.
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!!!deleted!!! (49761343) — 11 years ago(November 01, 2014 08:02 PM)
What is so bad about it?
It's a dumb filmthat's what's bad about it. The first Die Hard had moments of unrealism, but they safely fit within the constraints of a mindless action flick. DH2 is dumb even by action film standards. The best example of this is when McClane ejects from the airplane and safely lands on the ground. It's common knowledge that for a parachute to successfully deploy and open up, you have to be at a high enough altitude. In the scene, McClane is shot into the air maybe 100 feet from the ground, yet his chute opens up in time and with no problem.
There were a lot of little scenes like that, like the one of the panicked airline passengers stampeding out of the airport like a herd of dumb buffalo and crashing through plate glass windows. I mean, comeon! It was something out of the movie, Airplane.
DH2 also seems to go on and on and on and on with endless action sequences. After the plane crash, every sequence just seems tacked on to keep the film going as long as possible, like the snow mobiles scene.
Lastly, there's no tension in this movie. An example is that scene where McClane is coming out of a grate on the runway as the general's plane is landing. We're supposed to be in suspense because, oh noes, he is stuck and only has this much time before getting run over the by the plane's landing gear! But honestlywhere was the tension in that? Was there any suspense regarding whether he'd roll away in time? Of course not.
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driffter1 — 11 years ago(November 05, 2014 10:54 AM)
The thing that will bother me about this film until my dying day is the plane crash scene. So a plane crashes, hundreds are killed and ten minutes later it's all forgotten, with no evidence it happened at all. Why would they continue to route McClain's wifes plane there after a disaster like that? It would sensational world news, with the FAA on the site, emergency crews cleaning up debris, body parts and everything associated with it. By the end of the film it basically never happened though. The whole film is an exercise in ludicrousness and suspension of disbelief, but this sequence takes the cake.
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leyenda61 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 11:35 AM)
I didn't like this when i first saw this cuz it stretched my ability to suspend disbelief too far. However, if you just take it as an over-the-top action flick, it's a fun watch.
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