Pretty bad movie
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — The Little Mermaid
gerhajdu — 10 years ago(January 02, 2016 03:33 PM)
Aside from the nostalgia, the songs, the art design it's just bad.
To sum everything up:
Ariel openly and secretly disobeys her father.
She risks her life for human tools she doesn't know what they are.
She complains many times.
She's gorgeous but she dreams of more.
She blindly follows
fireworks she got enchanted by.
She can't get one man out of his mind who she never knew.
Ursula gives her help and is very smart and subtle but ends up as a power hungry monster.
Ariel is almost killed mostly because of her decision but the villain is brutally defeated, Ariel gets what she wants and everything's cherish.
Don't forget that Ariel willingly signs a treaty which makes her to gain Prince Eric's true love in 3 days with no ability to talk. Just how stupid she is? Come on! -
otness_e — 10 years ago(January 02, 2016 04:48 PM)
Ariel openly and secretly disobeys her father.
A father who was also proven multiple times to be xenophobic.
She risks her life for human tools she doesn't know what they are.
You know, Indiana Jones does many of the same things as well, and he's not considered a moron.
She complains many times.
Actually, she rarely even complains, and the times she does, it's usually perfectly justified, unlike with say Belle.
She's gorgeous but she dreams of more.
I would suggest you not tell that to immigrants to America, legal immigrants I should point out.
She blindly follows
fireworks she got enchanted by.
How the heck would that make the film bad. If you were someone who didn't know what fireworks were and you saw them above, what would you have done?
Ursula gives her help and is very smart and subtle but ends up as a power hungry monster.
We already got how Ursula was a monster well before Ariel went to her. And for the record, the only reason she even considered going to Ursula was because her dad blew up her stuff, and even THEN, it took a dirty trick from F&J to have her come with (as directly suggesting she do it actually failed in spite of her being an emotional wreck).
Ariel is almost killed mostly because of her decision but the villain is brutally defeated, Ariel gets what she wants and everything's cherish.
Which is definitely better than the original tale since at least she actually cleaned up her mess, unlike in the original tale where the mermaid got what she wanted despite not only committing suicide over killing the prince, but also basically putting upon needless suffering to her friends and family in the process of trying to get what she wants.
Don't forget that Ariel willingly signs a treaty which makes her to gain Prince Eric's true love in 3 days with no ability to talk. Just how stupid she is? Come on!
I really wouldn't say "willingly", since her reaction when she signed it made clear she didn't exactly want to do that but felt she had no other options. And also, she even tried to point that exact problem before Ursula basically cut her off by suggesting she basically flaunt her body.
And anyways, that movie is what saved Disney from being bankrupted or bought out, so give it some credit. I can name far more problematic stuff in Beauty and the Beast, one that DOESN'T have any real justification anyways. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(January 03, 2016 11:16 AM)
Ariel openly and secretly disobeys her father.
It would be very unhealthy for a 16-year old girl to always obey her parents. t's an age at which you have to start making your own decisions and, in Ariel's world, to start your own life. Ariel was not interested in performing, why did Triton force her?
She complains many times.
She complains about her father controlling her life. But a character complains and it automatically makes a movie bad?
She's gorgeous but she dreams of more.
How shallow. Being gorgeous ia a goal in life? You should just be satisfied with that?
She blindly follows
Who does she blindly follow? After a huge argument with her father who also destroyed her possessions, she was so desperate she hoped Ursula could help her out.
fireworks she got enchanted by.
Yeah, I HATE when movies do that
She can't get one man out of his mind who she never knew.
How does that make her different from most Disney Princesses? How does that make her different from Eric?
Ursula gives her help and is very smart and subtle but ends up as a power hungry monster.
Yeah, that's the point.
Ariel is almost killed mostly because of her decision but the villain is brutally defeated, Ariel gets what she wants and everything's cherish.
Ariel made a mistake and someone with bad intentions took advantage of that. But her father played a big part in that as well. It had a negative impact on all of them. But what's wrong with Ariel being able to live the life she wants and Triton accepting that and everyone being happy in the end?
Don't forget that Ariel willingly signs a treaty which makes her to gain Prince Eric's true love in 3 days with no ability to talk. Just how stupid she is? Come on!
There was no other way to become human, she didn't want to go back home at that time anyway. -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 03, 2016 03:17 PM)
Well, this so-called "worst Disney animated movie" is pretty much the movie that GOT Disney out of its slump since at the very least Black Cauldron if not Black Hole or even since Disney himself croaked, so I strongly suggest you give it some respect (and considering how even now its vastly popular, I'd say Disney did SOMETHING right). And quite honestly, it at least had a better story, characterizations, and morals than Beauty and the Beast.
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jajceboy — 10 years ago(March 27, 2016 11:36 AM)
LOL OP, that was very shallow and stupid arguments.
Have you never obeyed your father or parents You always listened even if turns out he constantly got it wrong? And were xenophobic? You never went your own way?
You never had dreams then and achieved to full-fill them? You just relied on your looks to get through life?
Also quite a strange comment to advice someone to not follow their dreams but just be happy with with how things are and hoping their appearance helps them.
None of these shallow arguments are valid reasons as to why the film is bad. -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 01:55 PM)
Yeah, well, Black Cauldron didn't get Disney out of its slump while The Little Mermaid did (well, TLM and Who Framed Roger Rabbit, though I'm not sure whether to count the latter since it seemed to be a joint project with Warner Bros due to its use of Looney Toons characters as well as Disney characters.). I'm just stating the facts, and besides, at least it had a better story and moral than Beauty and the Beast, you have to admit that much.
Granted, Black Cauldron could have done far better than it did (not necessarily being a smash hit, though) if Jeffrey Katzenberg didn't end up cutting literally ten minutes of animation out and then some, but nevertheless -
TutuAnimationPrincess — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 02:29 PM)
Hi there, as always, I love your passionate defenses of The Little Mermaid. But I do have a few things to respond to in your post here.
Point one, the above user is probably just a troll or a rabid member of the Lion Pack. Either way, not worth responding to.
Point two and I've brought this up before can you leave Beauty and the Beast out of these conversations? At the very least, don't worry about it unless someone else brings it up.
Last point, Disney attempting to adapt the Prydain Chronicles was always a bad idea that no amount of lost footage could fix.
"Unless you're an alien, time traveler, or esper, your opinion doesn't matter." -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 11:25 AM)
Point two and I've brought this up before can you leave Beauty and the Beast out of these conversations? At the very least, don't worry about it unless someone else brings it up.
Right, sorry. But I wasn't sure how else to tell them to stop slagging on The Little Mermaid anyways.
Last point, Disney attempting to adapt the Prydain Chronicles was always a bad idea that no amount of lost footage could fix.
Right, probably wasn't, but it at least would have done a bit better than becoming an outright bomb if they didn't cut out a lot of footage. -
Stratego — 10 years ago(March 29, 2016 03:35 PM)
I'm just stating the facts, and besides, at least it had a better story and moral than Beauty and the Beast, you have to admit that much.
He doesn't HAVE to do anything. What is this bizarre obsession of yours that everyone should agree with your view of the world? And like the other poster said, leave BatB out of it. -
Durham_christine — 10 years ago(March 30, 2016 01:50 AM)
Agreed, I'm tired of reading his Beauty and the Beast bashings. I've read them in other posts too.
I love both these movies. No need to bag one to prove the others good. They're both timeless classics -
otness_e — 10 years ago(March 31, 2016 11:21 AM)
Multiple feminist/left-wing professors, actually: one female (and I uploaded the recordings of her. I didn't specifically have you in mind so much as a future blog post on DisneyWiki, but I'm MORE than willing to show you the lecture tapes if it at least gets you to understand: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/e02pmeur6q4yb/World_History_up_to_the_1500s The more incriminating one is I think around the time of March. I definitely know it was around the time of the mid-point of the semester.), several male. And actually, not even that, there was also what various sources on Wikipedia revealed from interviews and covering development regarding Beauty and the Beast and the agenda they pushed.
Don't believe me? Just read up on all these links, all of which were actually used as source material for Wikipedia:
*http://articles.mcall.com/1991-11-22/features/2825583_1_beast-s-castle-fairy-tale-madame-gabrielle;
*http://time.com/2798136/maleficent-beauty-beast-writer/; *http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1992-01-25/lifestyle/9201241028_1_linda-woolverton-belle-show-scripts;
*http://www.mouseplanet.com/8500/Linda_Woolverton_and_Belle;
*http://girlsincapes.com/2014/04/07/princess-evolution/; *https://web.archive.org/web/20111009063303/http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/1991/11/17/just-the-way-walt-made-em.html;
*http://www.urj.ucf.edu/vol5issue2/dickens/essay.php;
