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I thought he couldnt have sex?

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    seveer37 — 12 years ago(October 12, 2013 11:12 PM)

    He said that is was disabled and had to use a catheter. So did it just kick up and start working? Seriously, I want to know.

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      puplover — 12 years ago(October 13, 2013 01:15 AM)

      Um, no offense, I'm not sure why you didn't get this: he is paying for "sex" w/ the Mexican prostitutes but it is just for essentially the connection w/ a woman, to feel her.
      That first hooker he was with, she was faking it, that's what she was paid to do, as a hooker. Thus, you notice his intense and heartbreaking reaction: tears of anguish that he could not perform. And never would.
      Great great performance by Tom. Just watched itagain.

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        atthedeathdisco — 10 years ago(May 24, 2015 07:15 PM)

        Yeah, I wondered that too. I figured either it can get hard, but he can't feel any sensation on it/around it so he can't move it or orgasm, or he wasn't actually inside her, and she was just grinding around on top of it, as it just lay there, flaccid. Personally, I was surprised she didn't do what most disabled guys in that situation do, which is have someone "milk" their prostate anally to induce orgasm, since they have no penile sensation. And to the person who replied before of course that's why he was crying, that's not the question this person is asking, it's about the physical mechanics of the situation.

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          andyd-1 — 10 years ago(June 24, 2015 01:54 PM)

          he couldn't have sex, his genitalia had been lost, he didn't want the prostitute to know that, so he said his penis couldn't get erect, but you could see he was coy
          from the quotes section
          "Sometimes I wish, I wish I'd - The first time I got hit, I was shot in the foot. I could have laid down, I mean - who gives a beep now if I was a hero or not? I was paralyzed, castrated that day; why? It was all so - stupid! I'd have my dick and my balls now,"
          Also he tells his mother he has a catheter for a penis, he says its what he has in place of a penis
          I dunno why people don't know this, it's like they can't take it in, you'd believe it if a hand was blown off

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            Redux006 — 10 years ago(July 12, 2015 07:53 PM)

            Pretty sure he wasn't using the term castrated literally. I think he meant for all intents and purposes he was castrated, since he lost the ability to have sex.

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              Minuet888 — 10 years ago(October 09, 2015 09:50 AM)

              that what the above poster said.
              You are taking things too literally he wasn't castrated he still physically has everything but they don't work so they are useless to him thus him using the term "Castrated" and also saying he has a catheter in place of a penis because instead of the urine coming out of his penis it comes out of the catheter. Get it?

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                CasseroleWorshipper — 10 years ago(March 08, 2016 11:33 AM)

                I never got the impression he didn't have a penis, it just didn't work and he felt embarrassed about the fact when he was with the prostitute.
                Although it's possible I guess that his penis was removed, cause it was never gonna get erect anyway, so it would be more simple to insert a catheter and remove it when needed? That seems a bit extreme but who knows.

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                  fiatlux-1 — 9 years ago(July 19, 2016 08:31 PM)

                  He has a penis but its unable to have an erection, because of his severe spinal injury. He has a catheter.
                  I didn't get the impression the hooker was 'faking', I just got the sense that he pleasured her manually. Then he wept because he himself could never experience an orgasm.
                  I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
                  Didn't he discover America?
                  Penfold, shush.

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                    prodigiousone — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 10:27 AM)

                    At the time of the film's release, Oliver Stone said that Kovic told him he "went down on" the prostitute.
                    Stone said it was a challenge to imply oral sex without having the MPAA wanna give him an 'X' rating.
                    But Stone specifically used the term, "cunnilingus", when describing the scene.
                    So, she was supposed to riding his face, I guess.

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