Did Marines in boot camp . . .
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fcolli — 9 years ago(January 10, 2017 05:09 PM)
. . . have access to their rifles and live ammo? Wouldn't the weapons be stowed in a safe place, especially at night?
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movies789 — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 10:56 AM)
As I recall from Army basic training (in 1968), rifles were kept in the barracks, accessible to the trainees for cleaning, drills and marching. If I remember correctly, authorized possession of ammunition was restricted to the firing ranges, where it was issued in exact amounts required for each range activity. Of course, it would have been easy enough to steal and conceal a small amount of ammunition, as "Pyle" apparently did. A normal trainee would not have risked being caught with contraband ammunition, but someone bent on murder wouldn't have concerned himself with that sort of risk, especially if it were stolen late in the training cycle, just prior to the intended murder(s).
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kdimmick — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 12:17 PM)
As I recall from Army basic training (in 1968), rifles were kept in the barracks, accessible to the trainees for cleaning, drills and marching. If I remember correctly, authorized possession of ammunition was restricted to the firing ranges, where it was issued in exact amounts required for each range activity. Of course, it would have been easy enough to steal and conceal a small amount of ammunition, as "Pyle" apparently did. A normal trainee would not have risked being caught with contraband ammunition, but someone bent on murder wouldn't have concerned himself with that sort of risk, especially if it were stolen late in the training cycle, just prior to the intended murder(s).
Same type of situation at Parris Island in 1979 when I was there.
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fcolli — 9 years ago(February 08, 2017 03:04 PM)
Thank you both. I was thinking that the whole scenario was implausible, if not impossible, but I guess it was plausible, although rare.
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kdimmick — 9 years ago(February 10, 2017 10:06 AM)
Thank you both. I was thinking that the whole scenario was implausible, if not impossible, but I guess it was plausible, although rare.
At Parris Island in 1979 when I was there the rifles were locked to our racks with cable locks with each recruit wearing the key (wich also fit the lock on our footlocker) on a chain we wore on our necks.
The ammo part would be more problematic with ammo only available at the range and at the end of each range day being searched by having to turn out all out pockets etc.but someone really bent on getting a round or two out would have been able to do it by stashing it in their boot or something like that.
The main detriment to something like that was the complete holy shtstorm that would have come down on you by the DI's if you were discovered later on to have taken a live round back to the barracks.LOL!
But overall it was completely within the realm of possibility.
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akg96-1 — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 12:24 AM)
A surprising amount of lack of discipline, reality, and constant stupidity done by stupid soldiers for stupid viewers in a surprisingly stupid movie about a stupid war that would gone on for a 1,000 years & more but others got riches and/or fame on the dead & brutalized bodies of so many thousand, for what? To show the powerlessness & constant stupidity of humans? Ready for national & world chaos, American civil war & world war??? You don't have to be, because it's ready for you!