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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Lady Jane


    MarsHill2001 — 19 years ago(September 02, 2006 04:28 AM)

    I am not into S&M, but I am familiar with a cane and a birtch since I have seen then used in other British films. What is Jane's mother using to beat her with? It sounds like a whip, but it is stiff. It is not a birtch as that is a bundle of flexible switches, this looks like about 3 or more canes bound together. Was such a thing used? I have never seen anything like it in any other film. They do not mention what it is, and Jane understandibly fears it. But what is it that she is afraid of? Some special Gray family recipe for convincing your daughter to marry someone that she dislikes enough to take a pretty ferousios whipping from? Can anyone shed any light on what this terrible object was?

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      IsoldeJaneHolland — 19 years ago(September 14, 2006 07:04 PM)

      They were probably hazel rods, which are very tough and thence painful.
      Several rods were bound together to form these instruments.
      Hazel, like willow, is both tough and flexible. If you've read Jane
      Eyre you may remember the cruel teacher at Lowood using a bundle of
      hazel rods tied together on Jane's friend Helen Burns. The one in
      Lady Jane is about the right length, too. They used rods (in Dartmoor
      prison until as recently as 1975) about a yard (meter) long, and
      geberally three or four, as depicted in the film.
      A single branch was called a switch. Less severe, but no picnic.
      Incidentally, the expression "to have someone over a barrel" refers
      to the practice of making miscreants bend over a barrel for this
      treatment. I always thought it meant someone poised precariously
      over a barrel full of water who can't move either way without
      falling in!

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        MarsHill2001 — 19 years ago(September 15, 2006 04:18 PM)

        Thank You, I have never heard of such of a thing before. So I guess it was a real instrument after all, I had thought that someone in the props dept was just being creative. Thanks again. Interesting part about being over a barrel, that has a whole new meaning for me as well. It does make sence, I had just never thought of that use for a barrel before.

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          IsoldeJaneHolland — 19 years ago(September 16, 2006 12:45 PM)

          You're welcome, my second degree was in renaissance history, so I have
          fun ambling around IMDb correcting the goofs in films ("Let me tell you
          what Columbus REALLY thought about Ferdinand and Isabella.")
          If you like english history I highly recommend 1969 Anne Boleyn drama
          Anne of the Thousand Days. It stars Richard Burton and Genvieve Bojold
          who was Oscar nominated, although only her gowns won! (Well, they ARE
          gorgeous.LOL) Bujold is stunning and the scene at the end where she
          tells Henry VIII off has to be seen to be believed.

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