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WHY does this movie get such a bad wrap?

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    The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 06:18 PM)

    She's certainly flawed but it's Alison Doody I have to hit the mute button on, horrible actress. Listening to her speak is flat out painful (doesn't help that she was given cringe worthy dialogue to work with).
    "I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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      king_cooler — 9 years ago(June 30, 2016 12:39 PM)

      Marion voluntarily got involved with Indy's adventure
      Did she invite them thugs to her bar where she was nearly killed?
      Nope, and she still wasn't annoying as that pain in the ass Willie.

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        thylacine80 — 9 years ago(May 10, 2016 12:38 AM)

        WILLIE is indeed a different kind of character, compared to Elsa or Marion. And its nice sometimes to have a change, and to depart from the easy formula.
        For once, the girl is not a femme fatale, a double-agent or an adventurer. Willie is a night-club singer, not made at all for that kind of adventure.
        And, unlike what is often said about her, she shows guts and courage.
        A superficial and selfish person at the beginning, she ends up punching guys, protecting short round and helping the best she can.
        Yes, she complains and scream, but she still does the job, joining in this nightmare to help Indy and to free the children.
        Its a far more interesting character development and evolution than for Elsa or Marion.
        I might add that one of the reason she screams more than the other ladies is because the events of the Temple of Doom ar the most terrifying in the entire franchise. I guess anyone would have shouted as loud as she did. And I guess not everyone would have keep on facing them as much as she did.

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          CakesAndAle — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 03:10 PM)

          Willie is a lot like Joan in Romancing the Stone, in that she was ill prepared for the adventure and physicality of what befell her. Except Kathleen Turner's screaming was nowhere near as annoying as Kate Capshaw's.
          The point isn't whether WIllie's reactions are realistic. The point is that she makes the film unwatchable for a lot of viewers. I just want to go "click" and shut it off.

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            jajceboy — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 10:31 AM)

            I read somewhere that critics and general audience thought it was to dark and to cruel. It wasn't as fun as the first one.
            Spielberg agreed and that's apparently why he did a third one.
            I have to agree. It is a good movie but it's over-the-top sadistic and cruel. Painful to watch.

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              The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(June 20, 2016 03:11 PM)

              The sadistic cruelty of the Thuggees makes it a better movie, because it gives the audience a reason to care about Indy escaping from the Temple, it's not a boring kiddie campfest like Crusade is (I will never forgive Spielberg for the Mickey Mouse joke).
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                king_cooler — 9 years ago(June 30, 2016 12:46 PM)

                That those Thugeees that get their asses kicked by a little kid and are overpowered by a bunch of weak child slaves?
                What a joke.

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                  The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(July 01, 2016 05:52 PM)

                  They ripped people's hearts out and beat little kids with whips. Mola Ram chants "kill the pig, flay his skin." That is beyond anything in the joke of a film known as Last Crusade.
                  "I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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                    Arvin-G-Borkar — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 05:03 PM)

                    Well, they were probably not fed well. I am assuming they only ate bugs? I highly doubt they spend time working out neither (because they use child slaves to do all the labor). Now you would have me stumped at how that head guard was so strong.
                    For weak children, it is strength in numbers. If you saw all of them coming at you at once, without any weapon, I highly doubt you would stand a chance.
                    THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR. COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS HERE!!!

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                      Bobtheawesome — 9 years ago(July 04, 2016 01:22 AM)

                      Temple of Doom is generally regarded as a pretty good movie, I certainly consider it one, but I'd say it is definitely the worst of the original trilogy of Indiana Jones movies, primarily due to the presence of Kate Capshaw's Willie Scott. She's one of the most flat out grating characters ever to be put to film, and her presence really brings the movie down, making it almost objectively inferior to the Raiders and Crusade.
                      All other differences in quality usually come down to a question of preference, some fans dislike the darker tone, or prefer the locations or plot lines in the other films, and some prefer the style of Temple of Doom over Raiders and Crusade. But almost everyone can agree that Willie is a truly awful character, terribly written, terribly acted, and the least likeable love interest in any of the movies (which is pretty impressive, since one of them was a nazi). Even so, ToD has many good qualities that elevate the movie and make it enjoyable, but you still have to get past Willie.

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