My favorite telling of the Camelot legend despite…
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Excalibur
movie_nazi — 9 years ago(June 12, 2016 10:25 AM)
some legitimate complaints such as over acting in certain parts. I also felt the second half of the film, or roughly after the Lancelot/Gwenivere betrayal, felt a bit rushed. I think you would need perhaps 3 hours to really give this story justice on film. One thing no one can deny, the portrayal of Merlin is hands down the best one I have ever seen. 30 years later it still stands.
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yvonneshusband — 9 years ago(July 04, 2016 02:47 AM)
Leondegrance (Patrick Stewart) disappears from the film with no explanation. The Holy Grail/Horn of Plenty amalgamation doesn't really work either; if Arthur needed to reconnect with the pagan tradition, why did he need the Holy Grail?
Other than that, it's one of my all time favorite movies. Zack Snyder incorporating it into BvS was a stroke of genius, IMHO, as well as showing him to have the guts to take risks with a huge budget project.
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movie_nazi — 9 years ago(July 04, 2016 03:35 AM)
Leondegrance (Patrick Stewart) disappears from the film with no explanation. The Holy Grail/Horn of Plenty amalgamation doesn't really work either; if Arthur needed to reconnect with the pagan tradition, why did he need the Holy Grail?
That is a good point, where did he go? I figured he was just a minor character so there was no real need to explain. But the entire grail segment left me scratching my head. It needed to be fleshed out more and was sorta sloppily thrown in there.
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yvonneshusband — 9 years ago(July 06, 2016 02:22 PM)
The Grail legends certainly incorporate pagan 'equivalents' such as the Cornucopia, or Horn of Plenty, but the Holy Grail myth/legend is most definitely a Christian one. Boorman did create his own interpretation, however.
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yvonneshusband — 9 years ago(July 09, 2016 09:16 AM)
I figured he was just a minor character so there was no real need to explain
He was one of Arthur's staunchest allies, as well as being Guinevere's father, so some sort of explanation might have been warranted.
But the entire grail segment left me scratching my head. It needed to be fleshed out more and was sorta sloppily thrown in there.
In 'Le Morte d"Arthur', the Grail is less a physical object and more of a metaphysical experience. Knights on a 'Grail quest' sought higher consciousness or something like it. In Wagner's 'Parsifal' the Grail is a physical object with divine properties. John Boorman's movie combines both ideas, but it doesn't really work, IMHO.
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