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So who at the top knew about the cover-up? Hollis? The VP? ?

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    olasnah-97-475221 — 9 years ago(June 30, 2016 08:29 AM)

    I still can't seem to figure out who knew about the cover-up. I get the impression that the Congressman (Hollis) did not, but that the President may have. Or maybe none of them did and it was simply Hal Holbrook's character's plan.

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      Eric-62-2 — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 01:23 AM)

      I disagree completely on both men. The President clearly did not know about the plot. Holbrook's tirade about how the VP went to the launch was a comment on how the President's commitment to the program is wavering. The hoax has been launched because if the failure of the life support system were exposed, then the President would likely pull the plug on the program.
      By contrast, I get the distinct impression Congressman Peaker is in on the cover-up and may in fact be one of the bigger people Holbrook refers to when he says its out of his hands now. Peaker's reaction at the ending to Brubaker's arrival has more of an "Oh sxxx!" quality than "Oh my God." It wouldn't surprise me if there was a cut scene making it clear that Peaker was in on it but that Hyams excised it for simplicity's sake in making Kelloway the chief villain.

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        ralph_2ndedition — 9 years ago(October 25, 2016 03:56 AM)

        I'd say the President is definately not part of it. If for no other reason (and there are other reasons) than that he NEEDS to be kept out of it, as it is a shady, borderline illegal operation, and the President can have no hand in such matters. He needs to have plausible deniability. So he most likely knows nothing.
        Hollis is too much of a good guy to be part of this. He WANTS the program to work, and would probably not have taken part in a hoax to fake the results.
        Kelloway was the link between the "people out thereFORCES out there" that have a lot to lose, and the astronauts needed to make the lies believable.
        As in so many other aspects of society, it probably comes down to money, and money alone. There are in all likelyhood corporations that have a great many million dollars invested in the space program in general, and in the Mars-mission in particular, and these corporations will lose everything if the space program is scrapped. These are most likely the "forces" that Kelloway is talking about. I seriously doubt a great many people inside NASA were in on this, instead investors a'plenty outside NASA were the ones making this happen.

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          Eric-62-2 — 9 years ago(October 25, 2016 03:06 PM)

          Peaker doesn't come off as much of a good guy to me. Yes, he's big about the program, but he comes off more like the local Congressman looking out for the interests of his District, which depend on the space program, and not because he's some idealist. He can easily be part of those "Forces" that would tell Kelloway to get the astronauts in line or else. Peaker would have a lot to lose in terms of his re-election and his political power if he saw jobs fleeing his district because the program folded up.

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            ralph_2ndedition — 9 years ago(October 25, 2016 10:17 PM)

            Ok, yeah. I get that Perhaps "good guy" was kind of off.
            But he does genuinly seem surprised and disheartened when the heat shield seperation-news hits I guess he could be part of it, but I always liked all the sharp, ironic and smart-assy replies he gave the VP at the launch.so to keep my experience of the movie intact, I'll count him out. 🙂

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              Woodyanders — 6 years ago(April 10, 2019 01:22 AM)

              I don't think either of those two guys were in on it.
              You've seen Guy Standeven in something because the man was in everything.

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                Eric-62-2 — 6 years ago(December 30, 2019 10:29 PM)

                I have just seen the longer "preview" cut of the film that has been released on Blu-Ray in Japan (but playable on US machines). The additional footage consists of a "docking" sequence early in the flight that is primarily done to show Whitter (Robert Walden) first noticing something is amiss. But during this sequence we can see the Army general who accompanied Congressman Peaker to the launch (who is also later seen in Peaker's office during the VP call) present at the desert base standing behind James B. Sikking who is controlling all the fake telemetry. That to me is the "smoking gun" that Peaker was definitely in on the plot and explains his "Oh, sxxx!" reaction when Brubaker shows up at the cemetery at the end.

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                  MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 12:12 AM)

                  It's all bullshit. A conspiracy like this is
                  impossible,
                  because there are WAY too many people
                  (hundreds, perhaps thousands?)
                  who would have to be silenced. Eventually,
                  somebody
                  would have come forward with the truth.
                  MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                    /.​ — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 12:15 AM)

                    based on a true story, Shaquatta
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                      MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 04:05 AM)

                      It's
                      bullshit,
                      Shabooboo.
                      MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                        /.​ — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 04:08 AM)

                        It's true, any potential whistleblowers were swiftly discredited, or worse.
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                          MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 04:11 AM)

                          Prove it, Kalisha.
                          MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                            /.​ — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 04:13 AM)

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                              MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 04:15 AM)

                              That proves
                              absolutely nothing,
                              LaQunda.
                              MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                                /.​ — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 04:16 AM)

                                NGL I wasn't even paying attention, what's this all about then?
                                My password is password

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                                  MovieManCin2 — 2 years ago(July 24, 2023 04:18 AM)

                                  Read the OP, Shaniqua.
                                  MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                                    𝙽𝚈𝙲 [🗽] — 2 years ago(July 23, 2023 11:56 PM)

                                    Hollis is an neighborhood in Queens, NY you punkass.

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