OSCARS 1978
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — New York, New York
MariaLoathesDTWig — 17 years ago(April 19, 2008 01:07 PM)
This movie is so underrated!!!I definitely think both Robert De Niro and Lizza Minelli deserved oscar nods and NEW YORK/NEW YORK should have won the oscar of the best original song as well.
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jaddeo — 17 years ago(April 28, 2008 07:49 PM)
Minnelli deserved a nomination but not DeNiro. This is one of the only films I've seen him in that I think he is NOT that good. The movie is not underrated. If it weren't for Minnelli this movie would really be very very boring. It's cold as ice. She supplies the only heat.
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artihcus022 — 17 years ago(May 05, 2008 09:14 AM)
Minnelli deserved a nomination but not DeNiro. This is one of the only films I've seen him in that I think he is NOT that good.
Well that's where you are wrong. It's one of Robert DeNiro's best performances.
"a va by me, madamea va by me!"The Red Shoes
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artihcus022 — 17 years ago(May 06, 2008 08:15 PM)
In what sense? Jimmy Doyle is certainly not conventionally likable or conventionally affable. He's insecure, pompous but also highly charming. And it is that charm which Francine is attracted to. Moreover it stems from him being highly emotional and emotionally honest. Like I remember one girl saying that their marriage scene in this film is the most romantic and special marraige she had ever seen in films. The reason being it's so unconventional.
"a va by me, madamea va by me!"The Red Shoes
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gluserty — 17 years ago(May 07, 2008 07:17 PM)
that's why the character of jimmy is limited. his charm is the only real ace in his sleeve. talented, maybe, but not really a guy who knew how to open doors for himself. i will say he was a better man by the end of the film. deniro did what he could with this character. i just didn't find jimmy to be particularly interesting or strong.
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artihcus022 — 17 years ago(May 07, 2008 08:27 PM)
But you are not saying the character is limited. You are just listing his flaws. Which is not the way to judge limitations of roles. Indeed the most creative roles for actors are the ones who are highly flawed.
"a va by me, madamea va by me!"The Red Shoes
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artihcus022 — 17 years ago(May 08, 2008 07:26 AM)
Nothing to clarify. It's a typo.
In any case if your only argument is grammatical error then you clearly don't have good reasons for calling DeNiro's performance bad. So you proved my point.
"a va by me, madamea va by me!"The Red Shoes
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gluserty — 17 years ago(May 29, 2008 12:22 AM)
"new york, new york" is a decent film, yet i feel the deniro character is limited. there just simply not a lot to do with such an unbendable character. thing is, all our opinions are right, because we own them:)
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vampirock_x — 17 years ago(July 19, 2008 05:19 AM)
I really though this film was underrated. Both the leading actors are great though Liza is greater. It is not cold as ice, well some parts are, but they should be. And the whole story just got me right through the end.
Besides, I never really love Scorsese's work until this one came
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mrgogonyc — 17 years ago(January 31, 2009 11:41 PM)
People!!! Let's talk about the biggest Oscar injustice of 1978: that the title song: "Theme from New York, New York" was not even nominated for best song.
And what song won that year? That omnipresent piece of drek "You Light Up My Life", sung by that ubervirgin Debbie Boone, spawn of cryptonazi Pat. Everytime you turned on the radio in 1978, that song was playing, reducing the nation to bulimia while trying to maintain control of an automobile. I'm sure many deaths and travesty can be attributed to it.
Meanwhile, "Theme from NY, NY" has proven to be an inspiring and beloved anthem.
That it was not nominated caused me to question the Academy for the first time and to truly test my belief in God. Those were long years in the wilderness for me. -
Milevskiy — 17 years ago(February 07, 2009 07:43 PM)
The movie doesn't add up to much, but Minelli does some nice singing - especially in the last half hour or so. De Niro does a lot of his improv that used to work well in Mean Streets and Taxi Driver, but he goed a bit over the top.
It just doesn't work with this character and this script. And there no real chemistry between him and Minelli, who seems out of place whenever she's not on stage doing a number.