Appalling movie.
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — New York, New York
sfla — 15 years ago(November 13, 2010 09:13 PM)
Honestly, Jimmy is the most unlikable, moronic, horrible, self centered, egotistical pig of a man ever to exist. How she could fall for him is just absurd.
I couldn't enjoy this movie because I couldn't look past how much of a f#*king tool this idiot is.
I hated this movie, rubbish. I hired the DVD to check out some jazz, some was ok, although I hate her 'old sounding' voice, and his sax playing was about as 'intelligent' and 'thought out' as his personality - that is, trash.
The jazz in this movie was mostly a bit 'old' for my liking. Some of it was ok, but I didn't like the really old sounding stuff. -
guy_in_west_houston — 15 years ago(November 15, 2010 10:48 AM)
It was so damn BORING..I mean the first half hour was DeNiro using one pick up line after another till he finally won over Minneli. Then five minute kissing scene in the cab - Aaauggh - come on - pick up the pace - That's why this movie runs for three long boring hoursMy wife stayed with it while I gave up and took a bath. Then afterwards I was just messing around the house and it seemed like Liza was just singing for a solid hour - song after song after song after song with no story.
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franzkabuki — 15 years ago(December 04, 2010 11:02 AM)
"Song after song after song after song with no story".
Its a musical so what did you expect exactly? Also, had you bothered to pay attention you may have realized a lot of these songs lyrics actually reflect the goings-on in the film and the De Niro/Minnelli relationship. Nice songs, too.
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brookwriter — 15 years ago(January 29, 2011 08:57 PM)
My favorite spot om IMDB is the message board for "New York, New York."
Nothing new to add tonight except that, OK, yeah there is this:
This thing about Jimmy Doyle being "unlikeable." This fascinates me. It fascinated me in 1977 and even more now.
I thought DeNiro was just dynamite when I first saw this. I was already in the Minnelli cult, but WOW, what a teaming was this!
To summarize for now, I had no problem understanding why Francine Evans put up with Jimmy Doyle. And why she bowed out at the end.
But. What a ride, if you know what I mean.
Musicians. Whaddya gonna do.
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gbennett5 — 12 years ago(December 19, 2013 12:53 AM)
Sorry, but I agree with the OP - this is one messed up piece of s$%t. A
truly uninvolving, awful movie. It's problems are endless. But let's
just start with the truth: There is not one - NOT ONE - redeeming
personal quality (and being a good musician is not a personal quality) about
Jimmy. Zilch. As such, the viewer is mystified that Francine could fall
for such an a#$hole. It makes no sense. Secondly, there is NO story. At
all. It is just a collecion of overlong scenes connected together.
That somebody decided this terrible piece of pooh needed to be
lengthened (!) to 164 minutes is nothing short of absurd. The opening
scene alone is three times (at least) the length it needs to be. Same
thing with all the following scenes. Deniro and Minnelli are brilliantly
talented and they are wasted with a terrible script, and - frankly -
terrible direction. Minnelli brags in the extras interview that they
adlibbed frequently, with MS giving them a starting point and an
ending point. Boy, does it show. And not to the film's credit.
Leonard Maltin's reference books gives this disaster a star and a half,
pointing out its slight plus - Minnelli's dynamic numbers. But they
are showcased all at once after Dinero leaves Minnelli and their kid
(like a poor man's "Show Boat"), totally throwing the film's narrative
off balance. It's like one has changed the channel - from a bickering
drama to an old Hollywood musical.
A failure on virtually every level and, sadly, it is partly to blame for
destroying Minnelli's film career.
The OP is right: this IS an appalling film.