Theme from 'New York, New York'
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — New York, New York
TunnelKeeperOfDoom — 20 years ago(April 17, 2005 06:40 PM)
Okay, I've got a question. Is this where the song came from? I've heard the song so many times before I'd even heard of the movie.
This movie builds up to it, it's worked into the plot well enough that it is hard to believe that the rights were acquired for this purpose. I admire the movie for what it was trying to accomplish, and if this is the original appearance of the song, I'll respect it.
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TunnelKeeperOfDoom — 20 years ago(April 26, 2005 03:03 PM)
Okay, after watching the new DVD with the audio commentary, I am reassured that this is where the song came from.
Watching the movie a sceond time has given me a better understandinig of the movie and I appreciate it alot more. The same year this was released "Star Wars" came out and rendered movies of this pace and style nearly extinct. For better and worse, I'd say.
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CiNEPHlLE — 20 years ago(May 31, 2005 04:58 PM)
Yes, despite the fact that it is eternally associated with Frank Sinatra's rendition, the song "(Theme from) New York, New York" was written by Kander and Ebb specifically for this film. Because the film was unsuccessful upon release, the song only really became famous once Sinatra started singing it.
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brookwriter — 17 years ago(October 01, 2008 09:18 PM)
Theme from New York, New York will ALWAYS be Liza's song. Frank even mangles the lyrics; I don't think he's ever sung the song the same way twice. Liza's concert version of this song is the Eighth Wonder of the World.
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moscamuerta — 20 years ago(September 02, 2005 08:30 AM)
I am a great fan of Sinatra, but have to admit that NO ONE can sing this like Liza Minelli. I was very used to Sinatra's version, but when I saw the film a couple of years ago I remember thinking: Wow, now this is how this song is meant to be sung.
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cupofcoffee5 — 20 years ago(September 27, 2005 05:34 PM)
I agree, this song is closely associated with Frank Sinatra, but this song belonged to Liza before and I've seen her perform it live twice, and when she sings "New York, New York," it brings the house down EVERYTIME!
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StoryTime — 20 years ago(December 31, 2005 10:02 PM)
I agree, Liza's version is totally hers, I mean, it is amazing.
I heard that De Niro actually chose that song over some others that were first suggested for that movie, good choice Robert!
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vannadogg318 — 20 years ago(January 29, 2006 07:23 PM)
liza minnelli's version of this song, the song that was written especially for her by kander and ebb, is faaaaaar superior to franks version. and robert deniro did "send the song back" to kander and ebb to re-write parts because he thought it didnt fit the movie. and as far as the yankees playing liza's version when they lose, you must hve forgotten when liza sang that song 10 days after september 11 at the mets game and people were crying because she sang that song like a battle anthem. she also sang it last month at mayor bloombergs inaugeration ceremony in nyc soooooo.. she must be doing something right. that version of ny ny is the best recording of that song.
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patbrien — 19 years ago(April 26, 2006 04:49 AM)
According to the IMDb facts, it was Robert De Niro who insisted that the original 'Theme From New York, New York,' be scrapped and replaced by something better suited to the movie. The songwriters Kander and Ebb were probably a bit put out by this, but came up with the version we all now know and love; and they have both expressed gratitude to DeNiro for his well proven artistic sensibility ever since. Plus, Scorsese is a genuis, too.
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FloTheDoorWoman — 17 years ago(February 08, 2009 06:54 PM)
I really liked Liza's version, but I've only heard it once when I saw the movie. Frank's is my favorite. I've wondered why his wasn't in the movie, but I guess it didn't come out till after itseems like they could've asked him to do it before for the soundtrack though. Oh well.
And I didn't know that Robert De Niro had asked for the lyrics to be changed! That's great. He's come up with a lot of things for his movies that've worked really well. I'm (even more) impressed now hearing this as this song is such a classic & I had no idea he had something to do with it.
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