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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Alice, Sweet Alice


    BayBayBean — 11 years ago(September 27, 2014 06:52 PM)

    Did they actually harm the kitten for the movie? I've looked into it and can't find anything definite.

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      picaqasag — 11 years ago(December 10, 2014 11:55 AM)

      i was worried about that too 😞 i really really hope they didn't. the rules for making movies was so much different back then.

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        aliceboy — 11 years ago(January 25, 2015 01:45 PM)

        Seems they did: that shot was cut from the UK print for violating the country's animal cruelty laws.

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          DisturbedPixie — 10 years ago(August 06, 2015 06:53 PM)

          Monsters. This film is terrible even if they didn't hurt that kitten, but now that i know they did, I'm furious

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            Falconeer — 10 years ago(February 17, 2016 01:54 PM)

            Terrible? no, cat abuse or not, "Alice, Sweet Alice" is an absolute horror masterpiece. If you think this is "terrible" then you have no understanding of the genre. As far as the cat scene goes, it was very common during the 70's to show animal mutilation. It's not good, but it's a fact of the time, and these films should not be censored today, because then it means the animals suffered for nothing..
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              NorthernLad — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 10:17 AM)

              Horror masterpiece? This movie? lol Yeahno.
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                Falconeer — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 11:36 AM)

                I'm really curious; how did someone like you end up on this board?
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                  NorthernLad — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 11:54 AM)

                  What do you mean "someone like me"?
                  I'm a horror film fanatic. I study horror films. This was not a masterpieceit's watchable but that's about it.
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                    Falconeer — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 12:31 PM)

                    Maybe the problem is the the term "horror film." "Alice, Sweet Alice" is not really a horror film. It's actually an American version of the Italian 'gialli' genre. And within THAT genre; yesthis is a masterpiece. Also being a "horror film fanatic" as you call yourself, doesn't necessarily mean you can recognize good horror. I don't know you, but maybe you have poor taste. And judging from your opinion of this film, i would say that is a strong possibility..as this is absolutely one of the BEST films of it's kind.
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                      lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 04:39 AM)

                      exactly that guy northernlaid or whatever is horribly inept, stupid, mislead, misdirected, ill informed, and retarded, and ignorant. any person who knows anything about horror films or films will instantly know that this is one of the best horror films ever made once they finish watching it. it's this simple. it's actually better than some of Dario Argento's films. it's tighter and more self involved and interesting and intriguing and fascinating and it's spellbinding whereas some of Argento's films aren't.
                      this film is such a harrowing and devastating film. it has more integrity, nuance, artisticness, and originality than most horror films that have ever been made. and it is better than 90% of every other horror film ever made.
                      it's a supremely well made and highly intelligently made horror film. and unlike most '70s horror films it doesnt' ever bore you or move too slow or have too much dialogue. it's an epic and monumental achievement in horror and horror films.
                      how is this not a horror film? I mean people get horribly killed, maimed, sliced, and there is a psychotic woman killer and a psychotic girl killer and there is suspense, trauma, violent mayhem, and terror and horror. you can't call it a suspense thriller though because there is explicit and graphic violence shown.

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                        NorthernLad — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 10:16 AM)

                        exactly that guy northernlaid or whatever is horribly inept, stupid, mislead, misdirected, ill informed, and retarded, and ignorant. any person who knows anything about horror films or films will instantly know that this is one of the best horror films ever made once they finish
                        Wow! Your opinion would have held so much more weight if you hadn't chosen to insult me with it. I spoke of the film ONLY. I did NOT insult anyone personally. It amazes me that you think what you've said here has meaning but all you did was insult me over not really liking a movie. Don't you feel good about yourself?
                        I got that far into your post and stopped reading and realized your opinion wasn't really worth much. So try againand try not to insult someone over not liking a film. You do realize that's all this boils down to right?
                        Idiot.
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                          lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 08:35 PM)

                          fuc# you.

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                            lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 08:42 PM)

                            fuc# you and your stupid, misguided, idiotic, retarded, ignorant, and totally inept way of thinking about this film. your opinion holds no meaning because it doesn't make any sense and doesn't hold true or correct or right. also fuc# you and your stupid and wrong rating on this film. you are all the other stupid and idiotic people who gave this masterpiece a low rating are one of the biggest problems that imdb has and the reason why it's rating is way, way too low, at just 6.5 right now. fuc# off pric#
                            Idiot.

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                              Falconeer — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 04:24 PM)

                              Absolutely; this guy "northernlaid" obviously knows NOTHING about horror, if he's downplaying THIS film. but I'm assuming he's like 16 years old, and in that case he just might not be capable of appreciating a film like "Alice, Sweet Alice." This has been in my top 10 film list for as long as I can remember; it's a masterpiece, and yes, it is "horror." But it's also an American version of the Italian 'giallo,' and I thought if I presented it that way to "northernlaid" he might get it. But there is no arguing with stupid, so it's his loss. His favorite horror film is probably Rob Zombie's "Halloween"
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                                lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 09:14 PM)

                                how can you say it's not really a horror movie if it's a Giallo movie? aren't Giallo movies horror movies? and with all it's vivid and explicit gory violence done in a terrifying, suspense laden way you have to categorize it as a horror film.
                                this is a masterpiece just like raging bull is a masterpiece. that is why I can't understand how it is so criminally and sinfully low on here at just 6.5??? it should be at, at least 8.5. the only thing I would have changed about it to make it better is leave out the unnecessary killing of the priest at the end. that was gratuitous and was only in there to shock the audience.
                                it was cheap and it was a shock just for the sake of the shock effect scene. they should have made the killing of the guy by the crazy old woman by her rolling him off the building be the last killing in this film. that scene had a lot of power and resonance. the killing of the priest was then overkill after that scene.
                                it's one of those unforgettable, unnerving, get under your skin horror films that stay with you forever. you can never shake the experience of watching it and you can never shake it's existence. it really affects you psychologically watching it. every person who watches it feels these psychologically affecting feelings while watching it and after watching it.
                                as much as I tried liking the Alice character because she was just so darn cute, adorable even and so beautiful she was a horrible and horrid character that I kept hating. the hatred of her character all started when she killed her sister. then this hate continued with me and got stronger when she sliced the poor sister of the mother's legs. that scene was so horribly unnerving and disturbing, scary, intense and suspenseful.
                                the only parts which made her seem likable or lovely were the scenes with that fat, weird, no eyebrows guy who lived with all those kittens in the apartment next to her apartment. she was so lovely and lovable in those scenes because he was so loathing and horrible and disgusting of a character. in those scenes I loved her because she was always so mean to him. she never showed any act of kindness or any nice or good quality in this whole film. she was always bad and never showed any redeeming qualities whatsoever.

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                                  lukejbarnett2002 — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 04:26 AM)

                                  exactly this is a masterpiece of the highest order. I hate all these people who are overly sensitive because a cat got killed or hurt while making this movie. who cares? we should care about people getting killed or hurt more than animals getting hurt or killed. and also, sometimes in film you can't shoot a scene of an animal getting hurt or killed without an animal getting hurt or killed. so they have to die or get hurt sometimes.
                                  also, keep in mind that cats and dogs are often eaten without blinking an eye in Asian countries. they eat them like they are cattle. the only reason why people have a problem with cats being killed and eaten is because they are our pets in America.
                                  people need to stop being so ignorant and feeling so bad when animals are hurt or killed for a movie. cats and dogs are not any more important than cattle or pigs.
                                  the worse case of this happening in a movie as far as how horribly disturbing is the scene in Cannibal Holocaust with the turtle. but that is a different topic.

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                                    pc_buttspasm — 10 years ago(January 03, 2016 05:13 PM)

                                    They've put it back now for the newer UK version, even though they still have animal cruelty laws, so I'm guessing it turned out that it wasn't real.

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                                      ElectricWarlock — 10 years ago(September 30, 2015 12:19 PM)

                                      I hope not. The film would still be good either way. I still like Cannibal Holocaust even though they kill about 6 animals but it would be better if they didn't.

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                                        kcmet79 — 10 years ago(October 18, 2015 10:17 PM)

                                        This is the only movie I've shut off in my life due to being disturbed or offended or pissed off. Swinging a fvcking kitten around by its head? Jesus

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                                          DreamsAgain — 10 years ago(January 17, 2016 04:50 AM)

                                          OMG.I was so worried about the kitten too.
                                          I was so hoping that it was all a fake kitten death scene.

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