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Aaarrrgh! That damn monkey suit!

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    magickbox — 10 years ago(June 19, 2015 04:33 PM)

    I'll stick with my original assessment, especially about that disappointing full scale Kong model that turned in a money pit, the big rubber snake instead of T-Rex and Rick Baker lumbering among the model buildings. Compare that to what RKO accomplished in the 1930's.

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      Buddy-Love63 — 10 years ago(June 26, 2015 08:16 AM)

      What really sucked for me was the horrible screenplay. "He's bigger than the both of us".
      The script was ok, even good in places. That line you cited was supposed to be a groan. Even Jack himself knows its a groan moment.
      And why was Jeff wanting to keep him alive? What was he planning on doing with him if he was alive? Take him home to his apartment?
      Kong is a unique new species. He already contributed to a petition to send Kong home. It's there in the movie.
      And why was Jessica so in love with Kong? Doesn't she realize she is not as large as his weiner?
      She wasn't in love with Kong. She was scared of him and tried to get away from him until right at the end when the helicopters came. Only then does she go to him to stop them shooting him. You are thinking of Naomi Watts in Kong 2005. Watts gazes lovingly into Kong's eyes and giggles like a schoolgirl on her prom date.

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        eddie_brown147 — 10 years ago(July 12, 2015 07:47 AM)

        Thank you I haven't had a good belly laugh in a long time..school girl on her prom dateha.haJack Black with an expression on his face like someone just blew wind.the 2005 version is my least favorite King Kong ever even with the millions of dollars of special effects. Kong sliding across the ice like a kid who got out of school early because of snow. Cheesy is the word..and there is a lot of it

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          Buddy-Love63 — 10 years ago(July 30, 2015 03:59 AM)

          Hehe no worries. Yeah Kong 2005 goes way over the top with the schmaltz and cheese. And Jack Black was simply the wrong casting choice for Denham.

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            ItsEddieHaskellBeyotch — 10 years ago(August 13, 2015 07:23 PM)

            The movie was sold mostly on the idea of the mechanical ape. When they knew it was limited in what it could do they implemented more with the costume. You don't get much better than Rick Baker when it comes to ape costumes/makeup.
            When theres no more room in Hollywood, remakes shall walk the Earth.

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              magickbox — 10 years ago(August 15, 2015 01:54 AM)

              No doubt Rick Baker put a lot of effort into designing his King kong costume, but the set design and camera work are also factors that can affect how well it all comes across onscreen.

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                  magickbox — 10 years ago(September 12, 2015 10:57 AM)

                  I admire Rick Baker for his artistic enthusiasm. I believe he was just getting started when the 70's King Kong was produced. Safe to say any gorilla costume I designed would be unrecognizable.

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                    jmillerdp — 10 years ago(October 01, 2015 03:02 AM)

                    What they most needed to do was shoot in slight slow motion, overcrank the camera just enough to give the Baker-in-a-suit scenes more presence. They seem to have shot them at normal 24fps, which is too realistic, pointing out his being in a suit.
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                      magickbox — 10 years ago(October 04, 2015 02:31 PM)

                      That sounds about right. I'm assuming this method would have required a bigger budget.

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                        jmillerdp — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 10:31 PM)

                        It would've taken more film, but that's about it.
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                          magickbox — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 04:10 PM)

                          Thanks for that technical information. Do you know if that method was in use prior to KK '76?

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                            jmillerdp — 9 years ago(November 11, 2016 10:23 PM)

                            Oh yeah! Overcranking is a common technique, and has been for many decades. Still just so strange that they didn't use such a simple method here.
                            I'm watching it again, and still just plain do not get it.
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                                magickbox — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 09:55 AM)

                                Perhaps if they had used the overcranking technique that jmillerdp had described along with some other cinematic techniques it would have been more tolerable for me.

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                                  GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 01:46 PM)

                                  I disagree. I actually liked how Kong looked in this film. Also stop motion would not have looked better imo. Always looks too cartoony and not real.
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