so was McMurphy actually crazy?
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balboa76 — 11 years ago(January 23, 2015 10:12 AM)
McMurphy wasn't crazy, he was faking the mental illness so he wouldn't be sent to a real prison, in fact the head of the mental institution mentions it in the first scene and in a second scene towards the end that he thinks he's been faking it.
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ddrummond-ayw — 11 years ago(March 21, 2015 06:10 AM)
I didn't think so for a while, but then I thought "what not crazy person would do the things he would". This of course brings uo the argument of what is normal and what is crazy, but you know what I mean. The mans crazy.
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mountaindewslave — 10 years ago(November 21, 2015 01:40 PM)
do you really think it's at all crazy for him to attempt to strangle her in that situation? she had just told a friend of his essentially that she was going to try and ruin his mental life by 'telling on him' to his mother
bear in mind this is a MENTAL INSTITUTION PATIENT she was speaking to who is known for past suicide attempts
the nurse was terrible and Mcmurphy attempting to strangle her was in anger not because he was crazy
if you watched this film in entirety and actually have to ask that then that's slightly concerning as the whole point of the film is that he's NOT crazy and that often the ones running institutions are more off in the head than their patients
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ck1-5 — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 05:35 AM)
No, he was not crazy; he was, however, the biggest threat to the Nurse's tyranny that she had ever had to deal with, due to the fact that he was not the sort of man who could be bullied into anythingand, while we're on the subject of what should go on in "civilized society", I don't believe that people who are put in charge of trying to help people who are mentally unstable are supposed to go out of their way to antagonize them instead.
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somesunnyday — 10 years ago(January 01, 2016 11:20 PM)
He certainly was not crazy. Nurse Ratched was working on him just liked she worked on everyone else (to paraphrase the Chief). She crossed the line with her manipulation of Billy and sent McMurphy over the edge. I'm with Taber on that one, you can see him egging Mack on and at that point in the film, so was I.
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 9 years ago(May 09, 2016 08:55 PM)
The Nurse is the one who is `crazy. She doesn't even do her job of helping any of the patients in the movie who I don't think are that crazy. The first group scene in the movie where she puts Harding on the spot to talk about his wife pretty well shows she doesn't want to help people. And it's obvious when she does nothing to keep everyone from arguing with each other. She just lets them argue and fight without any consequences for them doing so.
She also berates Billy for being attracted to women which is also dumb and I have to say Billy's mother is also dumb for not wanting Billy to have a normal life. When McMurphy suggests that they watch the World series she could've granted the request by putting the TV in another room where the patients who are interested can watch. But instead goes on about how the other patients would've been inconvenienced by it despite the fact they are all too far gone to really care about anything.
Heck in the book this is based on Chief who is the narrator of the book says that she doesn't help anyone and her main goal is to basically make every person that comes to the ward into a vegetable. She is a no good stinking evil jerk and so is anyone in history who was like her. She truly is a villain who only cared about herself and not about any of her patients.
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cartesianthought — 9 years ago(May 13, 2016 03:48 AM)
It depends what you mean by crazy. He's definitely a sociopath who has a high excitement threshold (aka he had to do outrageous things just to be aroused).
The man definitely knew right from wrong and he knew what he was doing every step of the way.