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    shermandemetrius — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 03:53 PM)

    In the episode Kirk and Spock are being humilated and degraded ( being forced to sing, have a little man ride Kirk, and so on.)
    So Kirk is forced to kiss a black woman, something he never does beforeis that one of the degrading, humilating acts he is forced to do and would never do otherwise?

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      !!!deleted!!! (49761343) — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 04:07 PM)

      No. What was humiliating about the act was that he was being forced to kiss someone he was in a professional relationship with. Same reason why Nurse Chapel and Spock felt humiliated. Nothing to do with race.
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          shermandemetrius — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 04:47 PM)

          Might seem bizarre to some today. It is that at the time of the Star Trek kiss, interracial marriage was illegal in at least 11 states in the United States of America.

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            timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 03:55 PM)

            Sherman Demetrius et al; Caucasian women were also encouraged 2 abort their unborn mulatto babies, as well! Even though abortion was illegal! See also Margaret Sanger's The Negro Program! A little something I learned of watching The Catholic Channel.

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              WyldeGoose — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 06:37 PM)

              As others have said, this was all meant to break Kirk into getting him to allow Bones to remain with these people. But, as Alexander said, they are not going to let them all leave. They are going to destroy them all. But they needed Kirk to give Bones his permission to stay so that Bones is a bit more cooperative (though I can't understand why he would be, since by breaking Kirk's will in this fashion all they'd be doing is antagonizing him even further - you don't want to piss off someone who may one day have to operate on you).
              However, I think this "first interracial kiss on television" gets way too much applause. It was contrived, not romantic, in that the two characters may respect one another as colleagues, but they were forced into this act. I believe it was All in the Family that had the first true romantic interracial kiss, and that probably did more to break social barriers than Star Trek's did.

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                sukhisoo — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 06:49 PM)

                I believe it was All in the Family that had the first true romantic interracial kiss, and that probably did more to break social barriers than Star Trek's did.
                Didn't Lucy and Desi share an interracial kiss?

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                  Satan2016 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 07:50 PM)

                  Unless he has mixed blood, Desi is Spanish. Latino just means descendant of Spanish immigrant to Americas.

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                    timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:33 PM)

                    Satan 2016; No. Lucille Ball was a Swedish (White ?) Caucasian American. Desi Arnez was an Hispanic (Ethno) Caucasian. With almost certainly some pre-Columbian blood. And possibly Black blood in him. Nordics may have not been considered White in the 50's/early 60's. Thus the ? inside the parentheses.

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                      McCartney42 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 07:52 PM)

                      I don't think it was "All in the Family" that had the first interracial kiss actually. There's a movie named "One Potato,Two Potato" that was made in 1964 that had the first kiss I believe. It starred Barbara Barrie and Bernie Hamilton who fall in love. It was a good movie.

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                        doug65oh — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 09:05 PM)

                        You're correct about "One Potato, Two Potato." However, that was a
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                        rather than a television program - that's where the distinction lies.
                        The first interracial kiss on American network television was in the episode "Plato's Stepchildren," which aired on November 22, 1968 when Captain Kirk kissed Lieutenant Uhura.

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                          McCartney42 — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 04:41 AM)

                          Thanks doug65 for the correction. I guess I'd forgotten that we were talking just television. Late night, you know how it is?

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                            timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:40 PM)

                            Was it Lionel Jefferson & Archie's niece.

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                              !!!deleted!!! (49761343) — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 08:48 AM)

                              Didn't Lucy and Desi share an interracial kiss?
                              How? Desi Arnaz was Caucasian.
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                                chris109 — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 01:45 PM)

                                He was a 'white hispanic'.

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                                  timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:10 PM)

                                  Vhris 109; There are Spanish Hispanics, Negro Hispanics, Asian Hispanics. Even Native American Hispanics! But no White Hispanics. Not in America (U.S.A.), anyway.

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                                    rcocean3 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:42 PM)

                                    How? Desi Arnaz was Caucasian.
                                    So you're saying Hispanics like Desi are white and not "people of color"?

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                                      timmytony80 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 04:37 PM)

                                      You guys know their lips never actually touched, right.

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                                        grizzledgeezer — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 08:17 AM)

                                        There might have been an Asian-American kiss on TV before
                                        Star Trek
                                        . I read this recently, but remember the program.

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                                          movieghoul — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 10:12 AM)

                                          What was the uproar with Harry Belafonte and Petula Clark? Did they kiss?

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