Has anyone seen this movie?
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hoyteiii — 20 years ago(January 01, 2006 10:15 PM)
The film has been severely overlooked for many years. I feel that it is Kate and Spence at their very best. She never looked better and the sets are awesome. Hollywood just doesn't make them anymore like they use to. Too bad
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HoferPM-1 — 19 years ago(August 01, 2006 06:59 AM)
I saw this movie years and years ago and thought it was very interesting! Wish I could just go on line and request a movie to see on the internet. Would make life a lot easier. I just saw Desk Set with Tracy and Hepburn. I could see the rapport between the two. They looked as if they shared a lot of humor in their relationship. Thought Adam's Rib was hilarious also. I bought the film and still think it's so funny.
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crazyclassicist — 19 years ago(September 23, 2006 03:47 PM)
This movie is superb - overlooked. The acting is actually the best they ever came up with, the love story more subtle, the story is intruiging and has depth. It's probably my favourite Hepburn/Tracy (although I have a soft spot for Woman of the Year).
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lordhack_99 — 18 years ago(May 10, 2007 09:08 PM)
Orson Welles's influence is all over this, I think. The Morgan Library reference at one point is an almost direct tip-off to the library vault scene in CITIZEN KANE, even perhaps to the inspiration for FLAME in the first place. And given that both films are barely disguised swipes at WR Hearst
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TheManWhoFellToEarth — 18 years ago(May 23, 2007 01:04 PM)
I DVRed this when TCM showed this recently. I had never seen it. The scene near the end where the truth about Forrest is explained was incredible. I think he didn't actually have ties to Hitler but was using Fascism as a model for a New America.
I'd really like to have a transcript of that scene. If I can't find one online then I'll transcribe it myself.
It seems to me the "Forrest plan" has been enacted in the USA, repeatedly.
"YOU REMIND ME TODAY OF A SMALL MEXICAN CHIHUAHUA"
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dmh7-1 — 17 years ago(May 28, 2008 07:56 PM)
Just saw it. Hepburn and Tracy are perfectly fine in the film, which reminds one in part of "Citizen Kane" with its unraveling of a "great man's" past, and the huge Gothic house, etc. There is some intelligent dialogue, the sets are stunning, the camera work superior, butthe ending is hysteric, blunt, and didactic, ruining what could have been a much better psychological bit of cinema. A disappointment finally despite all its apparent virtues. The manner in which a very compelling piece of suspense is blown is a disaster.
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dmh7-1 — 17 years ago(August 16, 2008 10:57 PM)
Yes. It's a marvelous looking film, it has all the atmosphere a film could use, and it has both great leads, and the usual "salting" of reliable character actors, but the storyline is not only terribly dated (and preachy/pompous about its politics) but - as you also note - seems to turn from a 1500 meter run into a short sprint at the very end. One wonders what the problems were - a pushy producer, an impatient director, a disinterested editor. Who knows? There are plenty of films about that era, about Nazis and the like that are still greatly enjoyable today ("Casablanca" stands out of course), but it's because the themes are rendered universal, the creators refuse to take themselves too seriously, and the real story is one of love or loyalty, etc. Here, we are led to believe something "important" is being revealed to us, and yet - the film wraps up in a headless rush. Very disappointing
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lordhack_99 — 17 years ago(August 18, 2008 01:35 PM)
Yes, the preachiness, even for its times, is tiresome, along with the somewhat Italianate pronunciation of 'fascist'. A fash-chist! Of course, if we begin thinking of films whose themes are above the, shall we say, intellectual station of its makers, or are made juvenile in an assumption that the viewer is a straw-chewing bumpkin, we could have a list here that runs for miles. I am thinking right now of SABOTEUR, but I really digress
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teaandoranges — 15 years ago(June 16, 2010 05:14 PM)
Wow.didn't occur to me when I was watching but of course it is based on Lindbergh Could also have been based partly on Joseph Kennedy.I enjoyed the movie and Hepburn/Tracy are wonderful to watch as usual.
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gbennett5 — 15 years ago(June 16, 2010 07:00 PM)
I saw this years ago, but hadn't seen it again until this afternoon on
TCM. Unlike other posters, my problem is the beginning, which is
muddled and highly irritating (credit Audrey Christie) in spots. But the
final 45 minutes unfold beautifully, with Hepburn and Tracy giving fine
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tireless_crank — 15 years ago(August 20, 2010 04:22 PM)
Lindbergh is more likely, he was a huge populist hero, he loved the Fascist ideology, touring Germany and meeting German leaders. He was an expressed racist and believed in eugenics. Not a pretty character up close.
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simplemines — 10 years ago(April 11, 2015 11:55 PM)
Eugenics was a huge movement in the US, starting around the time of Woodrow Wilson. It was, btw, a leftist movement (but then Nazis were National Socialists.) Nazis learned a lot about eugenics from American eugenics.
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molly-31 — 15 years ago(August 20, 2010 10:35 PM)
I'm getting distinct Lindbergh vibes off it. Especially the minute the guy mentioned "true Americanism".
It's like a twisted Capra movie. The dark side of that stuff. Or like what everybody thought Senator Paine was like vs. what he was really like.
Let's just say that God doesn't believe in me.