What if potential rape victim turned the tables?
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 06, 2022 10:29 PM)
I have often wondered how a would-be rapist would react if his potential victim actually found him attractive/hot and got turned on and had no intention of fighting and ended up becoming the aggressive one?
I'm not trying to be funny or overly insensitive here. But I just really wonder what thoughts would go through the mind of the thug if his victim (female or male) were actually two steps ahead of him?
I wonder if this has ever happened?
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 06, 2022 10:49 PM)
But what if the potential victim is actually "crazier" than their would-be rapist?
I am not arguing that rape is not all those terrible things that you said.
My question is possibly only hypothetical. I just wonder if it is conceivable that the perpetrator got more than he bargained for when the person he tried to attack was more violent/mentally ill than he was?
What if his would be victim turned out to be some hardcore masochist? Do you not see how this is at least conceivable?
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WarrenPeace — 3 years ago(May 07, 2022 12:11 AM)
"Do you not see how this is at least conceivable?"
I get what you are asking because I am not dense and stupid like that tranny Manna is who is such a clueless idiot.
I can only see how your scenario would play out and that would be in a date rape situation.
Where she agreed to meet with him.
If a woman is getting it from a stranger on a dark street I doubt that could turn her on at all.
I do wonder if her getting into it, faking or legit, would then turn him off since he would not have a sense of power and domination any more.
I suppose if that was a way for self defense then it would be taught instead of fighting back or whatever it is they teach.
I doubt that a woman would get into legit getting raped since she doesn't want it.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 07, 2022 12:21 AM)
I doubt that a woman would get into legit getting raped since she doesn't want it.
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Except in my case, the woman
doesn't
get raped. She surprises her attacker by being even crazier/more violent than he is and he is caught off guard by this and his violent impulses dissipate.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 06, 2022 10:45 PM)
No, it's not my kind of movie. Besides, that whole scenario has been done to death.
You missed the point of my question, anyway. What I asked was what if the victim surprised the perp and GOT TURNED ON by him and actually WANTED to have sex with the would-be rapist? Would this reaction catch the pervert off guard?
The closest I have ever seen in a movie was when the blonde man raped Susan George in "Straw Dogs". She seemed turned on by him.
As far as gay rape goes, the scene from Paul Verhoeven's "Spetters" where the cute dark haired guy gets gang raped and finds out that he likes guys.
When he was making films in his native country, Paul Verhoeven was the most erotic director I can think of.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 06, 2022 10:51 PM)
If someone attacked you in a brutal way taking away your power would u seriously be turned on?
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I think it is possible that I would be, yes. As long as he didn't punch me.
But I don't know for sure.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 06, 2022 11:34 PM)
Rape is a touchy subject for most and even if there was an element of enjoyment in it, it is considered rape because it is forced without consent.
In
Straw Dogs
, Amy knew her psychopathic assailant and had sex with him before. He still raped her though, because he manipulated and forced his way onto her and tore her clothes and undies off. She had no interest in the second dude whatsoever.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 06, 2022 11:50 PM)
I guess my bizarre notion all started when I read Cookie Mueller's autobiography. She said that if a woman starts to feel unsafe around a strange man and feels that something bad may be about to happen, i.e., rape, then one of her best strategies of defense is to begin to act flat out crazy. She then offered the story of how this scenario happened to her on a NYC subway late at night and she started speaking in tongues and started rolling her eyes back into her head and the creep changed his course and backed off.
And I suppose that the rapist can sort of intuit his victims and smell out their fear. Because rape is more an act of violence than an act of sex. So, maybe the rapist would be less likely to target somebody with a lot of confidence than somebody who appears more vulnerable?
I just think it's a wild thought to imagine a would be rapist who gets more than he bargained for when his would be victim "outdoes" him. And I'm really not talking about rape because in the scenario I have suggested it never gets to that point simply because, in this case, the victim has crazier and/or more violent impulses than his or her would be attacker. And I like the notion of the perp being totally caught off guard in this way. And I loved Cookie Mueller. She played Concetta in "Female Trouble".
"I got a knife in my pocketbook and I'm gonna cut you up after class!"
Yes, Amy had once liked the blonde guy. I liked her character.
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ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(May 06, 2022 11:59 PM)
She then offered the story of how this scenario happened to her on a NYC subway late at night and she started speaking in tongues and started rolling her eyes back into her head and the creep changed his course and backed off.
That is an interesting scenario and it also does make some sense, as in using crazy victim defense mechanism to deter the assailant. It might not work though if the attacker is a violent psycho.
Cookie was a wacky and sharp showpony by the sound of it. Acting may not be the first thing that comes to mind with most rape victims and getting away as unscathed as much as possible would be the first thought for most. Shock can also prevent people from acting with shrewd creativity.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(May 07, 2022 12:09 AM)
I guess that's why I love Cookie as much as I do. There really was nobody like her.
I own several of her books. I don't know that I've ever used this phrase, but maybe she really was too good for this world. Smart, resourceful, sweet, loyal, funny, true to herself, empathic and off the wall in her own uniqueness.
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