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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Brian Wilson


    neilmcd7 — 19 years ago(January 08, 2007 08:42 AM)

    I hate to say this but Brian Wilson's music post Sunflower on the whole is pretty bad. Melodically it was still interesting but it lacked conviction. Til I Die was probably his last statement song. Love and Mercy is good but the lyrics are weak. It seems like Bruce Johnston was right when he said Brian had this incredible 4 year career and we have been talking about it ever since.

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        neilmcd7 — 19 years ago(January 08, 2007 09:34 AM)

        Surf's Up is a good album but the only true Brian Wilson contribution was "Til I Die." A powerful song but still not one of his best. The song "Surf's Up" was written in 1966 and was included on the album against Brian's wishes. In my opinion, the two Carl Wilson compositions (with Jack Rieley lyrics) "Long Promised Road" and "Feel Flows" are the standouts. Sunflower is a great album but largely in part to Dennis' "Forever." I feel that song, and not "Cool Cool Water" is the centerpiece of that album. I agree the mid 1970's catalogue was awful save for Dennis' solo album. If Dennis Wilson had become the main songwriter after Brian stepped down, with Carl stepping in full-time into production, albums like "Love You," "Big Ones," or the others would not have sucked.

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            busenlilly-1 — 18 years ago(July 15, 2007 04:10 PM)

            Well, Sail On Sailor is a top notch song (if Brian was involved in that, we don't know for sure who wrote what).
            I also like some lesser latter day Beach Boys and Brian songs ("Lay Down Burden" is a good one), but yeah, if Bruce said that (I didn't know he did), he's about right. Still, with Brian you can't shake off the feeling that there is so much below the surface that he just doesn't let come through.

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              busenlilly-1 — 18 years ago(August 10, 2007 03:52 AM)

              Here's a list of some great post Sunflowers-songs by Brian:

              1. 'Til I Die
              2. Sail On Sailor
              3. Still I Dream Of You
              4. My Diane
              5. It's Over Now
              6. Love & Mercy
              7. Soul Searchin' (great in Solomon Burke's version!)
              8. In My Moondreams
              9. I Wanna Pick You Up
              10. Let's Put Our Hearts Together
              11. Good Timin'
              12. Lines
              13. Winter Symphony
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                gregaowens — 17 years ago(June 15, 2008 03:16 PM)

                Four years seems a bit harsh! Presumably Bruce Johnston has the mid-60s in mind, but I wouldn't want to write off any of the era from 62 to 71, even though at either end of that timeline the great songs get fewer and further between. It'd be pretty bizarre to talk about Brian Wilson's career and leave all the early hits and/or the later classics ("This Whole World", "Til I Die") out of the picture.

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