Rapidly going off the Mayo/Kermode review show….
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Mark Kermode
Passport-To-Pimlico — 15 years ago(January 23, 2011 07:57 AM)
I've been listening now for a couple of years and have always enjoyed hearing the latest rant from Kermode regarding the week's newest films.
However, in the last few months there's just been so many bookwormy jokes about grammar, spelling and pronunciation, as well as an increase in listener's emails being read which rarely have anything to do with movies (Usually just some boast about a charity event they're doing and merely want a plug on the show).
Hate to sound grumpy about it, and there's ALWAYS been in-jokes and stuff, but if they spent less time talking about these things, then there'd be more time to give the films proper reviews, instead of squeezing in three in the closing minutes of the show.
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Passport-To-Pimlico — 15 years ago(January 26, 2011 10:58 AM)
The Code of Conduct was initially a good idea, but it ought to have been wrapped up in two maybe three shows. Instead, the spent about five weeks on it, and the Jason Isaacs joke is no longer a novelty.
They also spent three or four shows talking about the BBFC rating for
Made In Dagenham
. Now, I realise the importance of it (lower certificate means more people get to see it, makes more money, the better it becomes for the British film industry), but he didn't half go on about.
To be honest, I imagine the majority of the listeners are over 18 anyway, so worrying about certificates shouldn't really be a problem (I speak as a non-parent though).
I still love the show though and look forward to listening to it on iPlayer every Saturday with lunch - And am a fan of the Kermode Uncut video blogs.
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seronie — 15 years ago(January 27, 2011 08:48 AM)
'Bantz' eh? Are you from the Forum? If so AWOOGA, if not, um nevermind.
I still like the show, it ebs and flows really, and is always preferable to Floyd and Boyd, and especially James King.
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Passport-To-Pimlico — 15 years ago(January 27, 2011 11:01 AM)
I still like the show, it ebs and flows really, and is always preferable to Floyd and Boyd,
Agreed
and especially James King.
ESPECIALLY THIS!!!!
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seronie — 15 years ago(January 27, 2011 01:51 PM)
Yep, King lost it for me when he spent a few minutes banging on about how the average cinema-goer wouldn't be interested in a 2 1/2 hour foreign language movie about Hitler (Downfall) and it was Simon Mayo who had to stick up for it.
Kermode's charm is he doesn't pander to the average cinema-goer. That's not what Wittertainment is about. It's about movie-literate people, not the kind of sheep who go watch Vampires Suck, bad Adam Sandler films, 2012, and all the other dreck that people put to #1 in the BO and red-top newspapers give 5/5 that actually isn't any good. People who say things like 'I don't like movies with subtitles'.
Why should we spend even a minute pandering to them? Kermode doesn't, that's why he has an extraordinarily loyal fanbase; and James King is just a wannabe.
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Passport-To-Pimlico — 15 years ago(January 29, 2011 10:31 AM)
I don't know where to start with James King. Everytime he's been on radio discussing film, he's ALWAYS made some sort of error in his movie knowledge.
Obviously broadcasting live to thousands of people is a bit nerve racking (I've done it a few times myself) but after ten plus years of doing it, one would've thought he'd gotten used to it by 238now.
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SuperMylo64 — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 10:23 PM)
To the OP - 100% agree, getting sick of listening to
- 12 year olds getting shout outs for expressing opinions that don't ring true, nothing makes my eyes roll quicker than hearing "children" talk about cinematography and narrative arcs.
- Twilight sycophancy - Those movies are mind numbingly beep all of them, let it go Dr. K, you're starting to sound like a dad desperate to be cool in the eyes of his kids (Also see High School Muscial/Zac Efron sycophancy).
- Harry beep Potter - I don't care, I never did, I never will - Please let's just all move on and stop devoting LARGE portions of the show to it.
- Mayo's "Critical" encroachment - He should realise he was merely the vessel for Dr.K's words, STFU and get back to his mindless middle class twittering.
- Endless references to Twitter - No one cares.
- Friends of the show Jason Isaacs & David Morrissey - I love both JI & DM, they do great work, but their not your or my friends, its getting very painful and the whole "hello" thing is completely out of hand.
- Emails from people who feel the need to list every single academic achievement they ever got, its just surreptitious grandstanding and shamefully elitist (This also includes endless mentioning of Manchester University).
- The code of beep conduct - Please, please stop this now. Either go to a better class of cinema or stop whinging about it. (This also includes ANY mention of crisp sucking or the consumption of noisy food)
- Richard Bacon - He has almost nothing to do with the show, but I just don't like him on account of him being a massive try-hard tool (I reference the show where he basically rimmmed Mark Millar on live radio - I mean "Kick-Ass" was good, but not THAT good).
- Smug self congratulatory/self referential emails - There's just way too many of these to dive into but the basic theme is "The Dr was right", "I love the Dodge Brothers", "I couldn't find a 2-D showing", "it was just as good in 2-D", "3-D can suck my dick" (OK, I made that one up, but its going that way!), "I once got raped by bins of the Phoenix Cinema in East Finchley, its my most favoritest cinema ever ever ever". These messages are clear radio bait and its shameful they get read out.
Rant over.
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seronie — 15 years ago(February 09, 2011 04:19 AM)
Sounds like you must dislike A LOT of what they produce as there is a great many of that in the shows lately, though I have a different, less critical perspective.
4, 6 and 7 are generally tongue in cheek, so they're okay with me.
2 and 3 occur when there is a new release of these franchises so it's excusable.
10 your point about radio bait is sometimes clear, yeah I wish there were less of those (though I do think 3-D is the Devil).
1 - also true. I'd imagine they're quite precocious 12 year olds, but they can hardly comment on cinematography. Presumably the producers find it cute.
5 - twitter is an up to date way of commenting on things, it's here to stay.
8 - yeah this has run its course.
9 - I like Richard Bacon, tho i wish he'd stop defending 3-D.
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al_1978 — 14 years ago(January 20, 2012 06:19 AM)
Bacon is a tool of the highest (or lowest, you choose) order. This is empirically demonstrable fact. I am right, everyone who says otherwise is wrong.
He should be sacked immediately and Mayo punished in some horrid way for making way for the man. -
al_1978 — 14 years ago(January 20, 2012 12:55 PM)
And his replacements are rubbish and not due the [rofessional respect he seems to think he has to pay them.
Tho he is wrong on points of fact from time to time, such as with some film he made reference to a few weeks ago featuring Dolph Lundgren. It, in fact, 5b4does not. -
April221968 — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 11:49 AM)
I agree, Mayo is the problem though. On Friday Mark had three films to review in the last five minutes and all we got was Mayo clowning and holding up the reviews that I listen for. Fire Mayo please BBC.
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al_1978 — 13 years ago(July 13, 2012 06:43 AM)
No, Kermode is as much to blame. And there are too many things squeezed in toward th eend. They should have giests more rarely and use the show for it's stated purpose. They have just said they will talk film today, after they have stoppeed covering racist and scottish footballers. They will be getting another text from me to remind them of that shortly.
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kath_a90 — 14 years ago(June 11, 2011 03:12 PM)
To Tokyofist I 100% agree with your rant. All that plus a general air of smugness (well smugger then when they started). Have been a fan for ages but I'm just a bit fed up now. Time for a rummage round itunes me thinks for a different review program.
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seronie — 15 years ago(February 13, 2011 06:36 AM)
Well, needless to say, I can happily wade through 2 hours of twitter, code of conduct, hello to Jason Issacs for 30 seconds of Yogi Bear. That was VERY very funny and vintage Kermode.
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SuperMylo64 — 15 years ago(February 15, 2011 11:12 PM)
You reckon the good Doctor has seen this?
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Passport-To-Pimlico — 15 years ago(April 05, 2011 02:41 AM)
The very WORST thing they seem to do these days is to waste time reading correspondence from annoying listeners boasting about their training for some marathon or run or other.
This is particuarly annoying as, A) It always comes across as a veiled boast about their athletic achievement and, more importantly, B) Since when were movie fans into fitness???!! Listeners emailing the show shouldn't be talking about running and getting fit, they should be pointing out geeky mistakes the duo have made, or making obscure references to unavaialble movies. Podcast listening film fans ought to be big, fat, wheezy, sweaty types, like Harry Knowles and not constantly banging on about how many miles they've achieved that morning.
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