She writes interesting stories, but good gravy she has no business being in even a 25 second commercial.
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Miranda July
carkayd — 17 years ago(September 10, 2008 01:29 PM)
She writes interesting stories, but good gravy she has no business being in even a 25 second commercial.
Seems she wants to write, direct and star in everything she does which is why she will remain unknown.
I wish she would just focus on her writing, but that is unlikely do to the (unwarranted) accolades her indie film have garnished. -
spinflux — 17 years ago(February 13, 2009 01:12 AM)
Seb68ems she wants to write, direct and star in everything she does which is why she will remain unknown.
That part of your post doesn't make much sense. The more you do, the more you will be known for doing, not the other way around, yeah? She isn't "unknown" The more you expand your creative fields, the more well-known you will be, right? I mean, being a writer, performance artist, actress, director, author of books, screenwriterthat's a lot of fields to participate in while "remaining unknown".
Which, as I stated, she isn't. When she came to do a live show here, the space was filled to capacity within five minutes. Maybe she's "unknown" in Nebraska or something, but even a few people there have heard of her, I'm sure. In places that only sell books in the grocery store, and have one solitary theater that shows one film that can already be rented at the video store next door, she is probably "less known". But in places that are cultured, densely populated, and have people who are highly networked and artistic, I assure you, she is known. Even my mother read her book before I had even heard of it, and she lives in freakin' Arizona. -
zurichpoet — 17 years ago(February 13, 2009 01:56 AM)
You cant understand nothing. This movie. This artist. This whole artistic bowel movement.
Nothing is there.
Like crap you have to descend and lower your point of view, your life to understand it.
Why? Waste of time.
And being "known" is not the same as being alive next to someone; cooking them dinner, reading them a poem that meets their emotional journey of that day, building them a flower garden the mirrors the color of their soul by each season.
It's fun. Great.
Trust me.
Being known by people you will never live around means nothing. -
spinflux — 17 years ago(February 13, 2009 02:48 AM)
Have another drink.
And a toast to those of us who have done things that make us humans connect on a more-than-superficial level
One of my favorite things to do with my best friend is go to a cafe and listen to him read poetry, by an author named Tom Crawford, a mutual friend of ours. It's difficult to read poetry aloud and have it hit the right cadence, but my friend is gifted that way.
I dunno if Mr. Crawford is "known" or not, and I don't care, because my friend reads his poems perfectly, and they are beautiful poems. I can picture someone else trying to read them, and it coming out all wrong. When my friend stops reading, I feel like a mooch for asking him "one more?"
But I do trust you that the things you mention bring great color to the soul, though they have little to do with the OP. Most humans in first world nations take these things for granted- gardening, cooking, and being able to read poetry and appreciate it. It is fun. It is GREAT. For others, it is a luxury, and for still other5b4s they are modes of survival. Which makes them all the more worth appreciating. And people who "can't understand nothing", by default of English grammar, do understand something. I can't understand nothing, because there's never been a nothing there for me to understand. Everything is meaningful.
Ms. July will hit the right cadence for some, like easily skipping over a river using slippery stones. For others, they will be timid, slip, and not seeing the gracefulness required, will fall, to be washed away to a place where they are more able to grab a foothold. That isn't the fault of the person, or the stones, or who placed them there it is simply the way life is. Art is art, and all that is required for an artist's success isn't to be "known", but to be able to convince even one person to see something exactly the way you see it when you produced the art in question.
But this isn't the place to get all elitist and uppity. Suffice to say yours is the first disagreeable post with dignity and insight that I have found in a long time on not only these boards, but the internet entirely. Days, it seems. Thanks, and cheers! -
zurichpoet — 17 years ago(February 13, 2009 03:49 AM)
Great response.
I agree cadence and speech is ridiculously important!!!
For common reference listen to Bruce Springsteen sing Blood Brothers and the line, I dont know how I feel, I dont know how I feel tonight part of the reason why I resent musicians ( in a good way) is they can hit a line and tone in different way, an odd emotion, sing about love in the tone of hate, or pity in the tony of respect, unlike a writerwhy I got into screenwriting, working with actors is the best, they can really ask you what does this mean, why should I say thisand how.
As for saying a line, if you want the true test ( and why I find this movies dialogue deplorable) everyone line you write should be able to be SCREAMED and not break.
That is, read that Bruce line you can scream it and it doesnt break, but at a hushit moveseven more.
If you scream the lines in You Me and Blah Blah Blahthey crumble
Ill check out that poet.
Thanks for the heads up. Great response again! -
FilmFromACan — 17 years ago(March 03, 2009 09:13 PM)
I have to disagree. I find her presence in front of the camera to be magnetic and awe-inspiring. I think her directing is spot on due to the fact, as a performance artist, she knows how to handle her material better than anyone else. She is also just a really great director. Her framing and composition are beautiful and everything about "Me and You and Everyone We Know" was fantastic. I'd have to say the scene where her and the dad are walking to their cars and comparing the journey to the span of a relationship is one of my favorite scenes in cinematic history. Perfectly written, acted, filmed, edited, and directed. She's ama5b4zing, period.