What I don't understand
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Mike Tyson
Johnathon-4 — 12 years ago(November 15, 2013 07:09 PM)
With this guys resurgence in popularity and one man show Does everyone forget that this guy is a convicted rapist, and admitted drunk/drug addict? He isn't some cute ex-champion that just sits around playing with pigeons He is scumbag.
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dmrc377 — 12 years ago(November 17, 2013 09:14 PM)
If you actually believe he raped that girl you don't know Jack. Tyson is one of the most fascinating people alive. That's why people love him. And he's loved a life the majority of people could never dream of.
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miadirossi-646-775832 — 12 years ago(January 28, 2014 01:01 PM)
I believe he raped her cause I've looked at the facts:
Tyson despite being booked into the hotel for the weekend tried to flee the state immediately after leaving Desiree Washington.
Tysons said on tape he likes hearing the word no from women in sexual situations
He's also said "He called me a 'rapist' and a 'recluse.' I'm not a recluse. Jose Torres said Tyson told him he likes to hurt women sexually and he's on tape saying about Desiree "maybe I took it further but whatever". Pam Pinnock when she asked Tyson if Desiree said no he responded "so did you but you didn't mean it".
Tysons been accused of rape by Arlene Moorman, 2 women in Clark County and his ex. He was accused of sexually assaulting LaDonna August, Phyllis Polaner, Virginia Foster and Pam Pinnock. He got violent after being turned down by a sales clerk, a woman in a parking lot, 2 women in a restaurant and a woman in a movie theatre. He molested Teddy Atlas' 11 y5b4ear old sister in law and AJ Ayer says he saw him forcing himself on a model. He has also sexually harassed many women. And she allegedly accused one other man of rape. How do we know that she wasn't raped more than once?
Two forensic experts examined Desiree Washington and said the physical evidence fit her story not his. Multiple witnesses including Tyson's chauffeur, a bellboy at the hotel, another contestant at the pagaent and a cop who interviewed Desiree said she was very traumatized and in shock. Not to mention she had her jammies on under her clothes. Who if they were planning to seduce someone would wear their jammies?
If you don't believe me on any of that its all on record as shown by the sources below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV7sRqA9Z14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ksBD4sy4jA
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-allred08_gidtsxkf,0,3881805.photo
http://www.rhymeswithsnitch.com/2007/06/robin-givens-says-mike-tyson-raped-her.html
http://www.nndb.com/people/257/000023188/
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1aUtmqza7BkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=pam+pinnock+father+fracture+139&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IMniUr64EMbBhAen3oG4BA&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=pam pinnock father fracture 139&f=false
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4338093.html
http://boxing.about.com/od/records/a/tyson_timeline_4.htm 111c
http://lubbockonline.com/stories/013002/upd_075-6870.shtml
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/13/sports/sports-people-boxing-tyson-agrees-to-settle-sexual-assault-case.html
http://sosoboxing.com/boxing-news/video-teddy-atlas-talking-bout-holding-a-gun-2-tysons-head/
http://louisproyect.org/2013/03/21/a-j-ayer-confronts-mike-tyson/
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HHT8tgAACAAJ&dq=mike+tyson+falsely+accused&hl=en&sa=X&ei=bMXiUvPmBuL17AaqkYHoDw&redi -
DomIsAMoron — 12 years ago(November 28, 2013 12:31 AM)
No, he did not. You literally just made that up. Tyson has never wavered from denying he raped her.
It was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty. Unfortunately, jurors aren't sure how to go about deciding on rape cases because rape can almost never be proven without a reasonable doubt. Forensic evidence is never conclusive of rape, and without witnesses, video, or a confession, you simply can not prove it. -
Topsword — 12 years ago(December 07, 2013 10:33 AM)
Desiree Washington is a gold digger that made it up. She has also falsely accused other guys before of the same thing. I don't think Mike did it. And Robin Givens and her mom are a bunch of opportunity seeking gold diggers too with their false claims.
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DomIsAMoron — 12 years ago(December 07, 2013 07:17 PM)
Yeah, there was a former classmate of hers who came forward and said she'd accused him to her father before retracting it. That definitely makes you hesitate, as does the fact that she went to the bathroom and removed her shield before coming back out, where the alleged rape then occurred.
The defense basically lost the case fo5b4r Tyson, both with their arguments and by putting him on the stand, where he was angry and combative. He was also allegedly eying women in the jury. -
miadirossi-646-775832 — 12 years ago(January 28, 2014 01:08 PM)
"She has also falsely accused other guys before of the same thing"
One other guy claims she accused him. He provided no proof of this and a person can be raped more than once. Tysons been accused of rape by Arlene Moorman, 2 women in Clark County and his ex. He was accused of sexually assaulting LaDonna August, Phyllis Polaner, Virginia Foster and Pam Pinnock. He got violent after being turned down by a sales clerk, a woman in a parking lot, 2 women in a restaurant and a woman in a movie theatre. He molested Teddy Atlas' 11 year old sister in law and AJ Ayer says he saw him forcing himself on a model. He has also sexually harassed many women
"And Robin Givens and her5b4 mom are a bunch of opportunity seeking gold diggers too with their false claims."
There's witnesses to him being violent toward Robin and he told Jose Torres the best punch he ever threw was against her. -
DomIsAMoron — 12 years ago(February 14, 2014 08:40 PM)
He doesn't need to provide proof of it. The former classmate signed an affidavit. Tyson was innocent until proven guilty, and they did not prove him guilty. I don't know what else there is to say.
Sexual harassment and rape have nothing to do with one another.
Tyson was only 15 himself when he grabbed Atlas's sister's butt. Again, sexual harassment/groping, not rape.
As for the rest of thatconsider the sources and what they actually said. Yes, numerous women have accused him of groping or making moves on them or talking crass to them, and yet they also talk about how they "pushed him away." Even Desiree Washington in her testimony claimed that Tyson "tried" to kiss her in the limo and she pulled away.
What's wrong with this picture? If Tyson wanted to rape someone, there would be nothing anyone could do about it. These women wouldn't have gotten away. -
miadirossi-646-775832 — 12 years ago(January 28, 2014 01:05 PM)
"Tyson has never wavered from denying he raped her"
Actually he's wavered a lot in his comments he's on tape saying he likes hearing the word no from women in sexual situations. He's also said "He called me a 'rapist' and a 'recluse.' I'm not a recluse. Jose Torres said Tyson told him he likes to hurt women sexually and he's on tape saying about Desiree "maybe I took it further but whatever". Pam Pinnock when she asked Tyson if Desiree said no he responded "so did you but you didn't mean it".
There was very strong evidence he's guilt (read my earlier post). -
DomIsAMoron — 12 years ago(February 14, 2014 08:44 PM)
I'd like to actually see/hear these quotes and know the context, rather than read internet claims that he said them. I've seen too many misquotes and myths spread around the internet over the years to believe something that is only written on the web.
Torres was reportedly threatened by Robin Givens's legal team and may have altered the book as a result. -
lornamd-1 — 11 years ago(January 30, 2015 11:19 AM)
I can help with hearing and seeing the quotes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QztIME8P_FI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ksBD4sy4jA
The quote about liking to hurt women is from the Torres book (how exactly could Robin Givens get her legal team to sue unless they make up false quotes from Tyson?)
The rapist and recluse quote is a well known one https://www.google.co.uk/#q=mike+tyson+rapist+and+recluse
The Pam Pinnock bit is available in her book https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1aUtmqza7BkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=pam+pinnock+father+fracture&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AtrLVKSGDunX7QawtIAQ&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false